Give those people MDMA and suddenly their mind will open up and your bad music will become their main music.
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I’m suddenly finding myself incredibly indifferent towards OP’s music.
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I just tried that and now my boss said I’m fired but I can’t leave until the police pick me up. THANKS
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and also a bit cold and tired and irritable?
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Yeah, but that’s the comedown from last week’s MDMA
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also think it is worth mentioning that your friends and loved ones are HOPELESS yardsticks for whether your music is any good. At best they’ll be relentless positivity machines that just regurgitate worthless praise without even listening. At worst they give you honest opinions based on their own dreadful tastes.
both are useless.
(alright not ALL your friends and loved ones necessarily… but even people you agree on a lot of music with inexplicably hate brilliant stuff, or object to the sound of sheet metal shearing in two being using as percussion or like Mr. Effing Blue Sky or some nonsense. Your tracks just need to find their people, and it’s probably different people for every track. But they’re almost certainly out there somewhere. Or in the case of some of mine IN there somewhere, for their own and societies protection.)
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I usually threaten harm or hold people at gun point when listening to my music. All the reviews have been super good so far!
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Except for that one guy you shot in the face.
Clearly he preferred death to listening to any more of that tosh.
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“Take my wallet!”
“Heh, you can’t get out of this so easily. Put the damn headphones on.”
“Please, I’ve got a wife and kids, and an AMEX black card”
“PUT THE HEADPHONES ON”
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Makes sense 
I didnt like his tone!
They always do!
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Most of the people I know don’t rate the bizarre shit that I absolutely love. It doesn’t make it any less incredible.
It’s tough sometimes but I just have to accept that they know nothing and deserve the soulless, meaningless existence they have come to embrace.
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I don’t know whether this would make sense in your case, but I found that most people do not listen when they do not know how to make sense of the music and what to pay attention to. My 85+ yrs old mother accepted to listen to more than 5 min. of my industrial techno (and actually liked it), but only after I had explained to her what I was doing and what was happening when in the music.
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So many relatable stories on this thread. Gives me some confidence into keep doing what I am doing.
I created an event in my city where I get musicians to improv with synths and drum machines. 99% of the promotion is convincing the public that this is something different than just a DJ set. When we get a strong attendance, the crowd usually splits. Half seem to really love it, the other half are very disappointed (probably due to the lack of drops lol).
My approach to making dance music live has always been “If I keep teaching them the foundation, they will learn to appreciate it”. That approach has been very difficult to achieve and probably won’t have successful long-term results, but at the end of the day… We are all having insane amounts of fun.
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I had a similar chat with my Nan while she was listening to some of my noise bangers.
Went something like this.
“…So after I’ve turned everything up to 11 I just sort of move a few knobs around until I get bored, then I just sort of turn it off.”
“But why though?”.
“Because fuck you Nanna, that’s why…”
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When people talk shit on my music I pull the old dumb and dumber laxative in the coffee trick! Who’s talking shit now!
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I remember the first time I heard about social media, Facebook specifically, and I thought the whole concept was friggen lame. If I want to talk to my friends, I’ll fucking call them. But then FB became all the rage for musicians to promote their music, so I joined. I quickly came to the realization that everyone, including my family and closest friends, had a public persona that they were developing which included this weird self-branding, ie, they wouldn’t share or repost anything that wasn’t within this idealized public persona. So here I am sharing my music and writing with my friends and family hoping, and even sometimes asking, for them to share my shit. Crickets. But look, they shared a picture of their bundt cake and avocado toast. That’s when I peaced out.
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I released an album a month ago and my wife hasn’t even listened to it. Haven’t consulted with my legal team yet
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If there is one thing which can be confirmed after reading 100 posts in thread titled “no one cares” pop up within just a few hours, it’s that someone cares.
and now for a literal wall of text:
I think another broad concept that has to be acknowledged, is that while there is some compulsion that impacts musical output, a ton of it is ego.
The desire to impress oneself, the desire to be accepted or affirmed for what we’ve done, the validation to continue doing it. These are heavily influenced by ego, and no one feels good when someone refers to you as “that bald man” so why should it feel any different when someone doesn’t appreciate a thing you’ve deliberately put out into the world as opposed to something you’re hoping they won’t notice.
It’s all well and good to relate everything to music, but self-esteem is more than just being accepted as a creative. We go out into the world every day prepared for rejection, and I can’t see music as any different than that.
It doesn’t mean that rejection, or worse, indifference feels good, but it’s something we’re all prepared for. Unless someone was raised in a perfect little bubble of acceptance and encouragement, and I don’t know a lot of people who were, we face the world expecting this.
I think people are sensitive about creative endeavors as it’s one-half desire to be understood, and one-half guilt from what we ourselves think when we attempt to objectively judge the creativity of others. It’s merely ego which separates the experience of trying to accept others vs the experience of seeking acceptance.
My ex liked terrible mainstream music, but she also liked my music which was a very puzzling experience because it was either someone with really bad taste in music likes my music vis a vis my music is shit, or maybe the music I consider bad (my music, also terrible mainstream music) both have qualities that are good which I’m not trying to see directly when I look at them.
It put me in a weird spot of trying to decide how much of this was my own prejudice against certain music and self-loathing towards myself vs how much validity my own judgements and criteria for judging weighed against the possibility that I’m the one who doesn’t see the big picture.
It’s a never-ending struggle, being human, seeking acceptance, attempting to accept oneself and also to be confirmed by what we do and the reasons for which we do it. In that way, music is a mirror showing us what we want to see. If you want to see ugly, you’ll see ugly, if you need the mirror to say “you’re the fairest of them all” then the mirror will probably say that you’re ugly because it’s your voice, not the mirror, and if you haven’t accepted yourself then it’s unlikely the mirror will tell you any different.
On the other hand, if you love yourself too much, then the mirror will talk you up and tell you all kinds of shit that might be better to get a second opinion on before you subscribe to, and finding the truth in-between is not an easy task.
In fact, if you’ve found the truth in-between, you probably deserve a position in a monastery because most people deal with this their whole lives, even ultra successful artists deal with self doubt, depression, and the same stuff as the normal folk, but when they feel rejection, it’s in the thousands, hundreds of thousands, millions…
I’m not sure I could ever want that, might just be easier to accept what people I know think about my musical output and look for those who like it than to be too concerned about whether normal people want to objectively hear what I’m trying to do.
Not sure there was a point in all that, just feeling a little riled up by the topic I guess. Very relatable.
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they say expectations are the root of all disappoint, over the past few years i think ive shifted my expectations when it comes to sharing my music.
i like sharing music here because when im looking at new gear im GASing over i want to see examples of music being made on it. most of the time its techno/house/ambient or something adjacent to that, which is a-ok with me but just not the kind of music i make. so i like to think that there is a small population of people who are hoping to find examples of tunes made on gear that sound like my music. then i get to share the process behind it and that is a fun community building experience.
when it comes to people i know in real life, at this point i just offer up my soundcloud so if they are so inclined, they can see what i do with my life these days. really only the closest friends actually check it out occasionally, and thats totally fine with me. recently ive been thinking i should give the link to my parents because im sure they would appreciate just the pure breadth of work ive put out. i imagine they think im just a lonely stoner in my free time. which isnt totally wrong, but at least i make a bunch of tunes too.
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