what do you think about the video? I think it is nice, but also a little basic. These basics can be found in other videos like cockoos video. I think workflow is not only about the basics, but also about what you do with it…
A big difference with what I do… I use a lot of ‘overdrive’ in the amp section. This pushes the sound a lot. I have the feeling it is a little cheesy… but it works. In the video, I have the feeling overdrive was only used for sounds that were added at the end of the video for the sounds that were added at the end.
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what do you think about the video? I think it is nice, but also a little basic. These basics can be found in other videos like cockoos video. I think workflow is not only about the basics, but also about what you do with it…
A big difference with what I do… I use a lot of ‘overdrive’ in the amp section. This pushes the sound a lot. I have the feeling it is a little cheesy… but it works. In the video, I have the feeling overdrive was only used for sounds that were added at the end of the video for the sounds that were added at the end.
do you have anything to add about your workflow?
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I also use overdrive to add gain to any sound I want to turn up. And that is pretty much every sound. I find they give you a lot of headroom to play with on purpose. First thing I do is crank the input gain on the compressor and mix in the signal, then adjust the threshold to taste. Then I use overdrive to boost the signal hitting the compressor as well.
The video is certainly aimed at new customers that think it would be too hard to get into… The realtime recording of sample swaps was a nice idea I’ve not seen…
The hardest thing to get your head around with Elektron gear is the whole saving hierarchy and how to go about your general house keeping… Still pickles my head tbh.
The fast switching sample modulation part is left field, that’s for damn sure! I did something like that on a PEK, but the AR (and A4) are much faster. Not necessarily samples only, but sound switching in general.
As a newbie I actually liked it. Though I think workflow is something deeply subjective, I recognize there are ‘basics’ but the more you know the machine, the more intimate it becomes to yourself. I mean, in art there is no right and wrong, but what drives you, and the method to get there is what I am talking about.
Exactly… After years of elektrons, i’m still not fond of the pattern/kit/project structure, and i think it could have been so much more intuitive. For a start, let every empty pattern have its own empty kit. And let globals be global, not per project. I started with all the hardware with the idea of working more immediate, turning on some devices and start playing, but i find myself setting up stuff all the time instead of playing.
^ yeah a new untouched pattern should have a default or predefined kit (an option to load current kit or blank would be nice) good suggestion. I don’t actually have lots of suggestions for making it better just would love to understand from there perspective how EXACTLY They do it, nice and simple.
There’s nothing to dislike about a new HQ video for sure just there’s things that get ignored a bit (maybe because it’s not very intuitive)
An in depth house keeping video next please, totally idiot proof !!
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My housekeeping is choitic at best, but have been thinking about it quite a bit recently, I’ve started to name my A4 patterns
Gm 119bpm [name]
This has let me run through all my projects pick the best tracks, rename like above, then dump th to a new project following the tempo and circle of fifths when jammin a set out, think I’m close! The next gig on Boxing Day will be a joy instead of me bricking it inside!
Would love to hear abit more on this also…
Exactly… After years of elektrons, i’m still not fond of the pattern/kit/project structure, and i think it could have been so much more intuitive. For a start, let every empty pattern have its own empty kit. And let globals be global, not per project. I started with all the hardware with the idea of working more immediate, turning on some devices and start playing, but i find myself setting up stuff all the time instead of playing.[/quote]
Good points. Elektron is all about ‘prepared spontaneity’ I find.
Yeah, as someone who’s very new to a rytm (and elektron) that video was incredibly useful. Not just for the stuff that’s new to me now, but I can see that if I had that video about a week ago it would have really speeded up figuring out some things. It did a great job at packing in (in a way that could be followed) many small things that I suspect seem completely obvious to more experienced elektron owners, but aren’t really.
Exactly… After years of elektrons, i’m still not fond of the pattern/kit/project structure, and i think it could have been so much more intuitive. For a start, let every empty pattern have its own empty kit. And let globals be global, not per project. I started with all the hardware with the idea of working more immediate, turning on some devices and start playing, but i find myself setting up stuff all the time instead of playing.[/quote]
Good points. Elektron is all about ‘prepared spontaneity’ I find. [/quote]
I totally agree. The complex data structure is in the way a lot of the time rather than being helpful. Some things could have been solved a lot better.
Exactly… After years of elektrons, i’m still not fond of the pattern/kit/project structure, and i think it could have been so much more intuitive. For a start, let every empty pattern have its own empty kit. And let globals be global, not per project. I started with all the hardware with the idea of working more immediate, turning on some devices and start playing, but i find myself setting up stuff all the time instead of playing.[/quote]
Yeah I can’t stand how there are no true global kits/sounds. I am always setting shit up as well.
Exactly… After years of elektrons, i’m still not fond of the pattern/kit/project structure, and i think it could have been so much more intuitive. For a start, let every empty pattern have its own empty kit. And let globals be global, not per project. I started with all the hardware with the idea of working more immediate, turning on some devices and start playing, but i find myself setting up stuff all the time instead of playing.[/quote]
Yeah I can’t stand how there are no true global kits/sounds. I am always setting shit up as well.[/quote]
Hmm, when I start a new project the only thing I find that I set up is the kit when I work on a new pattern. So to get around this I create a template kit with my favourite settings preset and then I load it up whenever I begin a new pattern and tweak away.
I had a watch and liked the video, i did something similar with the LFO sample switching
I think the flexibility of the kit and pattern structure is that you can have longer patterns with shared kits to have longer sequences which evolve over a long time.
But if you want to create a consistent beat, its a good idea to create a pattern with kit, copy it, and then save the kit for the new pattern with a different name, so that your changes do not affect the pattern before.
Also the FM Kickdrum can be used as an acid like bassline, which is quiete cool.
I am currently thinking about chaining up empty patterns, and then live record over them, i think that could also be a good method to have longer constant evolving motion. (Each filled with with a somewhat similar kit, which is then tweaked.)
What would be cool for the next video is, when Dataline can show creating a full song, and how he prepares multiple songs for live mode. (Ideally in combination with other elektrons.)
I thought the video was well produced and went at an ideal pace. Looking forward to the others while I wait for my second box, a Black Weeks Octatrack gets to me.
Exactly… After years of elektrons, i’m still not fond of the pattern/kit/project structure, and i think it could have been so much more intuitive. For a start, let every empty pattern have its own empty kit. And let globals be global, not per project. I started with all the hardware with the idea of working more immediate, turning on some devices and start playing, but i find myself setting up stuff all the time instead of playing.[/quote]
Yeah I can’t stand how there are no true global kits/sounds. I am always setting shit up as well.[/quote]
Hmm, when I start a new project the only thing I find that I set up is the kit when I work on a new pattern. So to get around this I create a template kit with my favourite settings preset and then I load it up whenever I begin a new pattern and tweak away.[/quote]
Yep but when you combine it with other Elektrons, you need to setup sync, program changes, midi routing etc
I like the videos. They give potential buyers and newbies a good overview of what you can do and also how. And watching Mr Dataline there’s always some “aha” moment for me although I think I know the machines pretty well.
I didn’t know that fade in fade out thing with the vibrato on the A4 and watching the AR video there’s some clever use of live recording sample changes into the sequencer.
