New to Elektron workflow

HotLoveDrama · 2016-06-16T16:20:00.926Z

Hey guys!
I’m new to Elektron’s workflow, bought a AK a few days ago and have a few questions since I’m coming from Ableton. I’m interested in working first without the computer and then fine tune the projects with Ableton.

As I understood bank patterns are linked between tracks. So I change my pattern from A1 to A2, it will do so in all my tracks. In Ableton I would just duplicate a clip and add a variation while other tracks weren’t modified. In the AK would you just copy all the patterns to A2 and change some trigs to one of them while keeping the same Kit as for A1 ?
Do I need to create a new kit from A1 to A2 if I want to slightly change some parameters of sound ?
In Ableton I was of course always working on a song per project, and then I do a special project for my liveset. Since Overbridge seems to link projects between the AK and ableton, am I supposed to work this way ? Or is it simply too complicated to recall all the kits, patterns in a project dedicated to a live performance ?

Thanks!

Snowbird · 2016-06-16T17:05:57.563Z

A “Kit” is a collection of 4 sounds (=4 “Tracks”). A single “Pattern” has triggers for all of those 4 sounds. When you select a kit, the machine sets the current pattern to use that kit.

So, if you want to make a small modification to a sound to have a slightly different kit, it needs to be saved with another name. You can have two identical patterns, e.g. A1 and A2, but have them play different kits.

Don’t know about 3), since I haven’t touched Overbridge yet…

CarlMikaelBjork · 2016-06-16T17:51:25.912Z

HotLoveDrama:

In Ableton I was of course always working on a song per project, and then I do a special project for my liveset. Since Overbridge seems to link projects between the AK and ableton, am I supposed to work this way ? Or is it simply too complicated to recall all the kits, patterns in a project dedicated to a live performance ?

It’s a choice you make - to have total recall or not. You make your setting in the Overbridge plugin.

On the one hand; Total recall is convenient. Live keeps track of the state of your AK. How your kits are set up.

On the other hand; Total recall takes some time when loading a Live set, so if you need to switch sets while playing live. You’ll probably want a strategy for bridging the gap.

On the third hand; If your live Live set is one big one in any case - it might make sense to have this use the total recall, to make sure everything is properly contained.

avantronica · 2016-06-16T18:06:24.612Z

HotLoveDrama:

Do I need to create a new kit from A1 to A2 if I want to slightly change some parameters of sound ?

In one sense yes, it’s possibly easier and more future proof
In another sense, you could have the same kit and parameter lock the slight sound parameter changes - these will then be baked into the pattern, not the kit

It’s all too easy to (re)use a kit on another pattern, change it to suit, and then discover the other patterns are affected … may just be best to anticipate how you need to have things work for you and stick with a workflow, even the hassle of kit per pattern

HotLoveDrama · 2016-06-16T18:09:30.476Z

Okay thanks guys !

And do you save one song per project or do you use one bank of patterns per song in a project ?