New OS update... WHEN?

So we had the a4 and then the A rytm… What about the OT?
I think a lot a people would love too see a new OS update from Elektron …
That would really stop the thinking of ‘‘is it done with the OT?’’

SO Elektron, give us the OS update :alien: :imp:

Can we set up a poll/voting/betting thread?

My money is on March 2015.

+1 :+1:

someone has any info? :neutral_face:

What would you like to see? I’m thinking of getting one back and to be fair when I had it, it worked great…
Be great if there’s still room under the hood for refinement, tho a finished product doesn’t mean a discontinued product.

Shit, dude, there’s been a million ideas and improvements posted on here and the old EU forum.
So far…zilch.
It’s so sad.

to be fair, the octatrack has been very stable for me now. it didn’t used to be years back. i’m very glad it’s gotten very solid over time in my use cases. i’m not necessarily sad at all it hasn’t been updated.

there will always be features and improvements we can imagine but that doesn’t mean they necessarily belong in a product. i would certainly like chopping that detects transients but i’ve worked around that years ago.

i understand the desires for something that is seemingly so close to a better experience for your use cases but sometimes you just have to make do or make your own product i suppose.

many people including me got the OT because the promise of continous updates!
for example: “audio and midi sequencer”- and why we can’t use scenes in the midi sequencer?? WHY??? and why it can’t record lenght and velocity in the audio sequencer??? WHY??? it could be easely made!
like neilbaldwin says: bunch of suggestion and also couple of coders out there they could develope third party stuff and from elektron comes nothing. not a word about: there will be a update (when). what would be possible and what not and so on… just silence. this is strange and imo the wrong attitude for a modern music instrument developer… i have the feeling to have a instrument (!!!not cheap) thats has been already forgotten.

Lots of potential badly implemented IMO. For a sampler that costs over a grand there are some serious omissions. I’ve sold mine and used part of the cash to buy an MPC 1000 and still had 500 bucks left over for some other toys. Loved the original Machinedrum, but the OT just is not for me.

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[quote=“PlayRecords”]What would you like to see? I’m thinking of getting one back and to be fair when I had it, it worked great…
Be great if there’s still room under the hood for refinement, tho a finished product doesn’t mean a discontinued product.
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Shit, dude, there’s been a million ideas and improvements posted on here and the old EU forum.
So far…zilch.
It’s so sad.[/quote]
Guess I didn’t read em or forgot, but Yeah there’s always ideas. I was just wondering if theres anything hindering its performance that’s missing or we just talking of a little tart up here and there…

Shit, dude, there’s been a million ideas and improvements posted on here and the old EU forum.
So far…zilch.
It’s so sad.[/quote]
Guess I didn’t read em or forgot, but Yeah there’s always ideas. I was just wondering if theres anything hindering its performance that’s missing or we just talking of a little tart up here and there… [/quote]
Depends on the functionality that you use. I’m sure lots of folks can use the OT and never run into a limitation/bug; Others find issues at every turn.

For me, the OT has lots of possibilities. Sometimes, exploring these possibilities causes me to run into real problems on the OT. At first, I would try to find a way around it or a way to make it work. After a while, I found it easier to simply avoid trying to do certain things because I knew there were issues.

I bought one OT at full price, and when I wanted more than 4 outputs of mangled audio at a time, I ended up picking up a second one used for very cheap because that was when folks were getting very frustrated and selling them off quickly.

If you only have a single OT and it is the master clock and center of your studio, you will probably have minimal issues. If you own more than one, have other gear/DAW that is your master clock, and want to run pickup machines doing more than striaght sampling/looping, you might find the problems others have discussed.

Do I still use them? Sure. Am I pissed that Elektron hasn’t addressed some issues? Sure. Will these two things ever change? Probably not.

We do it zis way or not at all

Autocratic Euro style

Don’t know many Swedes but I hang out with plenty of Germans, Dutch and Norwegians.

Hope is what we have and I still have faith

thats been answered for a long time. i think it was because basic midi just cant send that many CC’s morphing in real time reliably.

thats been answered for a long time. i think it was because basic midi just cant send that many CC’s morphing in real time reliably.[/quote]
of course it can!!
or can you tweak in your daw or synths only one parameter at time via midi?!
have you ever heard about midi buffer? in fact there is no defference if you use the slider or record the p-locks on all OT midi tracks and send them to your synth.
the midi sequencer on the OT is simply not finished!!!
for example: where are the one shot trigs?
why we cant’t have midi scenes?
and so on…
for a midi sequencer it as too basic for 1200 €… and yes, it calls himself audio AND midi sequencer!

What oldgearguy says perfectly sums up my own feelings.

It’s not so much that I get hindered by the OT (I made some crazy sounding stuff in those early OT Labs just through tricks and doggedness!) but it’s the potential that the OT offers and you can just see in the distance how much better the machine could be while staying well within it’s capabilities.

Honestly, the list of stuff that you could consider as ‘missing’ as opposed to enhancements is huge. I’ll throw ‘poly mode’ in there as a starter. Why have we still not got slicing by transient? I defended them over this originally as I thought it would be definitely something that would happen but here we are, two years down the line and no sign of it. And even more frustratingly, despite the (implied) promise of closer ties and involvement with the Elektron guys on the forums it’s all eerily absent from every thread that involves OT updates.

What I don’t understand is this: as a developer with a rabidly loyal, experienced, educated fan-base, surely the suggestions and feedback you’d receive about how your users would like your products shaped would be absolute GOLD! I’d like to see that Elektron take that seriously in exchange for the faith that their customers put in their products and do some more than just pay lip service to the feedback.

+1 :+1:

Fair enough. I hope they listen and give some feedback soon…

I completely agree with you. The OT sequencer is not good at all for many uses, and as oldgearguy said, some issues of the OT will only appear to those who use it in a more complex gear environment than just a pair of elektron.

As I had many occasions here to say it, I originally bought the OT to complete my live set with a good sampler and a good sequencer. I already have a MD, and the RS7000. After month of fight with the so called “sequencer” of the OT, I decided to get back to the only decent sequencer I have: the RS7000. And I use the OT as a slave. I don’t think it’s a normal situation for the price of this gear. So, I think we need a complete update of the OS in order to have a decent sequencer.

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I completely agree with you. The OT sequencer is not good at all for many uses, and as oldgearguy said, some issues of the OT will only appear to those who use it in a more complex gear environment than just a pair of elektron.

As I had many occasions here to say it, I originally bought the OT to complete my live set with a good sampler and a good sequencer. I already have a MD, and the RS7000. After month of fight with the so called “sequencer” of the OT, I decided to get back to the only decent sequencer I have: the RS7000. And I use the OT as a slave. I don’t think it’s a normal situation for the price of this gear. So, I think we need a complete update of the OS in order to have a decent sequencer. [/quote]
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No what pisses me off is that the OT just needs an editor/manager - it just does. Quickly set up parts, samples - you know what I mean. And rusty a dude here has one nearly built. Now if I was elektron I’d buy it off him and develop it. It’s just nuts.
The OT I don’t think is ever going to be what we want it to be but I want someone to sit down and at every turn say “how can we make this easier and more fun” or get Oliver from mutable instruments to write the os
It’s so annoying - it’s too good to let go but not nearly good enough to be the “centre” of my studio which on paper it should be