New machine for Mnm

xrizna · 2013-12-24T19:14:10.000Z

Ask for a pitch tracking synced osc in a synth is too much, sorry.
Dsp do it somewhere else.

xrizna · 2013-12-24T19:24:07.000Z

I read this too late ,next time I ll reply in right way.

xrizna · 2013-12-24T19:40:25.000Z

higlhy probable that dsp are full and there is no room for high demand oversampled osc

KrisM · 2013-12-24T20:55:41.000Z

""xrizna"":

higlhy probable that dsp are full and there is no room for high demand oversampled osc

I think what they are saying is the available memory for the operating system is full, meaning there’s not a lot Elektron can do with it anymore. No new machines, and maybe not even modding existing machines. After ten years I don’t even know what amount of code optimization would be left to get a little more space.
But they could always surprise us.

jonah · 2013-12-25T03:28:52.000Z

the biggest thing i find lacking is that you can’t “resample” to create your own digiwaves in the machine itself. that, or let us “draw” them similar to the octa’s midi arp.

imo there are a lot of cool sounds still in there , but i don’t spend that much time digging because it (loading waveforms) doesn’t feel like a creative part of using the machine itself. personally, i’d give up sysex transfers or maybe even the multi env to squeeze that in there.

about the OS being full:

the current OS, minus some bugs, feels pretty “done” to me.

i think it’d be fun to have remake/remodel OSes. the hardware is still great. of all the machines, i think it has my favorite ergonomics. think about like, the Oto machines biscuit/der oto or JJOS versions. one of my favorite softwares of the year, permut8 has “hacked” firmwares you can load.

i feel, if anything, with the release of the a4, the monomachine would be a cool playground for even more out there digital synthesis. i mean, you can already get some some nice physical modeling type sounds with the delays and effects in a feedback loop, so i know the software is capable. you can get really nice sounds by stacking tracks, why not attempt a “proper” additive synth? i’ve been digging on synths like bitwiz and chip sounds that use simple formulas to make sounds. you could set it up so each track is part of the “formula” or something. see here: lhttp://countercomplex.blogspot.com/2011/10/algorithmic-symphonies-from-one-line-of.html The DNA synth recently added to the OP1 that’s unique to the individual’s hardware is a neat idea too.

the monomachine is awesome in it’s versatility, if nothing ever changed it’d be fine by me, but i’d enjoy seeing one idea taken to extremes sat the expense of others (as long as you can switch it up). call it monomania for the monomachine.

FreeFall · 2013-12-25T06:21:58.000Z

""Accent"":

I said “weakest”, not “useless”. There is a difference in meaning there. And my Mono has basically been an extra appendage to me since I got it. I love it and can always explore it further, but it isn’t a case of not exploring it deeply, just noting a spot for improvement.

Sorry Accent! I was replying to the OP by Xrizna. KrisM was right about my hitting the wrong reply button. Cheers!

disuye · 2013-12-25T07:00:32.000Z

Are there any hacked firmware / OSs available for any of the Elektron gear?

I was blown away by what Magic Lantern did for the Canon 5Dmk2 camera, and I remember there were custom MPC operating systems floating around.

Anything out there?

plusn · 2013-12-25T09:07:29.000Z

""xrizna"":

Hallo,
In my opinion there is a big gap in MnM synth machine ,in the field of synchable osc (pitch track) and ring modulated osc.
What we have seems to me quite useless.
Did they forgot something in the MnM

As already written above, the Mnm is already enhanced to the max. But what you can still do, is use the user wavetables to bring in the sounds you miss. Try around with this. Amazing things are possible, E.g.: pseudo polyphony on one track.

guga · 2013-12-25T14:08:17.000Z

the Monomachine IS the Monomachine … there’s already a lot to dig into, i would look at other Elektron’s machines for other features or … Elektron could come up with an ‘all-in-one’ box to please everyone

SpacesSound · 2013-12-27T23:07:47.000Z

I really love the MnM but please,if possible, a few sequencer/arp tweaks would rock my world. Namely. length per track and P.Lockable Arp

BoomTish · 2013-12-29T23:32:12.000Z

Love the posts stating you don’t need anything more for the MnM. How could anyone tell you that you can’t want more? Ridiculous

Always want more!

B

guga · 2013-12-29T23:47:38.000Z

""we88"":

I really love the MnM but please,if possible, a few sequencer/arp tweaks would rock my world. Namely. length per track and P.Lockable Arp

this would make me happy

Accent · 2013-12-30T02:49:37.000Z

^Thirded.

zfigz · 2013-12-30T02:54:32.000Z

For me, it’d be length per track and micro timing…

credo · 2013-12-30T12:46:37.000Z

""zfigz"":

For me, it’d be length per track and micro timing…

I agree on this. Also fwd/bwd seq.
I would gladly offer chorus/flanger and even VO-6 for this.

guga · 2013-12-30T21:33:16.000Z

""zfigz"":

For me, it’d be length per track and micro timing…

micro timing would be nice as well

zfigz · 2013-12-30T21:51:33.000Z

I have a feeling that there won’t ever be any os updates for the MnM…

BoomTish · 2013-12-30T22:10:14.000Z

""zfigz"":

I have a feeling that there won’t ever be any os updates for the MnM…

I’m sure no one there knows about or wants to support that platform. Its old CPU and bits now. My only bug report years ago came back with a “that’s the way it is” reply.

zfigz · 2013-12-30T23:06:50.000Z

""BoomTish"":

I’m sure no one there knows about or wants to support that platform. Its old CPU and bits now. My only bug report years ago came back with a “that’s the way it is” reply.

Brings a tear to my eye. :¬°(

Fuseball · 2014-02-26T15:38:51.000Z

I totally understand that the MnM is most likely just the way it is now (and I love it for all that). I do however wish that I could change the synthesis machine without resetting all the amplification, filter, effects etc. pages.

I’m assuming that there’s no easy way of doing that?