New Elektron announcement at Musikmesse (2014, Overbridge announcement)

xmit · 2014-03-12T14:09:46.000Z

AIRA’s price is good but it has nothing professional attached to it.

well apart from the multitrack streaming to DAW via USB a bit like what Elektron have just announced here. And the fact that the TR-8 seems to offer note-perfect emulation of not just sound but also the feel & groove of their classic beatboxes used on thousands of ‘professionally’ produced tracks over the last 30-odd years…

just sayin’, in the interests of balance & all that. ( I’ve no axe to grind one way or t’other btw ).

Now - give us these proper RYTM demos please Elektron that are going to sell me one, rather than a competitors product. Meat & potato drums & perc for contemporary techno,acid, house,EDM type productions please.
Enough with your ring-modulator kick, et al - give us the real deal. You know what I mean.

tjebbestorm · 2014-03-12T15:09:19.000Z

in the future I could probably use many setups then
for recording live stuff and even with the advantage that each track is recorded separate in logic and could be routed anywhere etc…

will it be possible to use the a4 overbridge as a sound card in only?
so I could use a second soundcard for routing the a4 tracks from logic into a ext mixer routing it back into say the C/D input on the OT?

will the inputs and fx track on the a4 get overbridge support?
or could they be sent to the main outputs to have a extra output just for the fx and input track while in overbridge?

will there be track routing options for the a4 main outputs
(tr1 -4, fx or input) choosing just one for the main outs

will it be possible in the future to hook up the overbridge straight on to any or some usb mixer sending each track to independent channels
having real time mixer +ext eq control over the A4 and rytm tracks
I think this would be super awesome

just dreaming:
with 3 usb in for rytm and a4 and usb out (for ext rec of tracks)
having a 6 or 16 channel mixer ( extra audio ins for md and mnm )and fx in out (all mixerpossbillities)etc…
and with possible settings for choosing input usb 1 usb 2 or both at the same time
linking audio tracks from both units to channels routed by mixer A (usb1)or mixer B(usb2) and have them run independent settings for each track
or even have banks for saving mixer eq settings for different sets
you would have a super elektron end mindcontrol mixer ll stop now it it a view songs pop into mind under the bridge? bridge over troubled water or

invisible_acropolis · 2014-03-12T15:35:47.000Z

hmmm… this puts my decision between getting A4 or Mono back into debate mode… leaning heavily towards A4 this time

ive been wanting to move away from having PC as master sequencer, but then again Bitwig is coming soon… maybe that will make it worth it

decisions, decisions

im wondering what kind of latency this USB multi-track mode will have… thats the key… generally USB isnt the best interface for audio in my experience

Hassel · 2014-03-12T15:42:28.000Z

""xmit"":

AIRA’s price is good but it has nothing professional attached to it.

well apart from the multitrack streaming to DAW via USB a bit like what Elektron have just announced here.

Hehe of course thats why Elektron announced the Overbridge now, to get the only thing AIRA got in advantage out of the way!

license · 2014-03-12T16:17:40.000Z

""DeltaPhoenix"":

Strange move, I always read how everyone is happy that the Elektron boxes got them away from the computer, Get ready to plug back in.

+1
This is a great move for the company, though, and I’m happy for users who will find this integration useful. Especially if this also allows computer control over CV, this is bound to bring in lots of new users and revenue.

Just don’t forget your all-digital machines - they are great too! It’s been almost a year since the OT has seen a maintenance OS update - some bug fixes and enhanced MIDI control would be much appreciated.

Booga · 2014-03-12T16:35:51.000Z

With the Overbridge feature I don’t have to buy an extra soundcard with lots of input channels to record it. This is just fantastic!

AikiGhost · 2014-03-12T16:43:07.000Z

Id be interested in if overbridge would as well as being an editor/librarian & daw integration tool would also allow patch randomisation & morphing. That would be really cool.

void · 2014-03-12T16:54:37.000Z

see here: Elektron CTL Framework Open-Sauce

it can do that.

it is the basis for this:
http://www.elektronauts.com/t/twitter/4065/34733/

this:
http://www.elektronauts.com/t/baking-arps/3906/32623/

this:
http://www.elektronauts.com/t/analog-ipad-app-beta/2668/34934/

this:

apoc-2012 · 2014-03-12T17:00:50.000Z

I was just last week wondering why Daren’s output mod had gone quiet.

A4 has just been jacked up. I love it.

This deserves a slew of emoticons.

chapelierfou · 2014-03-12T17:45:58.000Z

Honestly i am very much concerned about the audio quality via overbridge…
And how will a DAW handle a soundcard + overbridge at the same time, on stage. I must admit i am very pessimistic.

void · 2014-03-12T17:49:27.000Z

they probably wouldn’t do this if audio quality was sub par…

Fuseball · 2014-03-12T17:53:32.000Z

""void"":

they probably wouldn’t do this if audio quality was sub par…

And hopefully, unlike Virus Ti, it would be built around a modern USB spec better than 1.1.

pixelife · 2014-03-12T18:00:29.000Z

I miss

Kool Aid man, too.

natrixgli · 2014-03-12T18:07:17.000Z

OK this is definitely driving my Analog Keys GAS through the roof.

My live setup could go from this:

Tempest > Octatrack > Soundcard
Laptop > Soundcard > Octatrack > Soundcard
Octatrack > Soundcard > Laptop
Ultranova > Soundcard > Laptop > Octatrack > Soundcard

to this:

Laptop > AK > Octatrack
AK > Octatrack
Octatrack A/B

And I could add a VST or two to replace the Ultranova, and the AK would pick up the slack from the Tempest which is mostly used for synth sounds anyway.

DAMN YOU ELEKTRON!

G0n35y · 2014-03-12T19:15:49.000Z

I suspect Overbridge is going to be a little bit of a pain in the tits on PC. Windows is complete arse when it comes to multiple audio devices so for my set up it will most likely mean fannying around with ASIO4ALL.

Still, it’s got me thinking about potential. Using Push to enter step sequencer and, potentially, parameter locks for the A4 and effectively keeping “patterns” within Live’s clips is much more natural to me.

Something like this will take a mountain of work though. I guess it’s one of my main concerns how Elektron can hope to continue updating the likes of the OT while also beasting into the coding for the analogue gear they are pushing hard. I know we’ll read lots of “we haven’t forgotten about you OT/MnM/MD owners” chat but talks cheap you know.

barryfell · 2014-03-12T19:27:58.000Z

""J0n35y"":

I suspect Overbridge is going to be a little bit of a pain in the tits on PC. Windows is complete arse when it comes to multiple audio devices so for my set up it will most likely mean fannying around with ASIO4ALL.

If it’s anything like how audio over USB works on the Virus, you will only need to use your usual audio interface and not have to combine with ASIO4ALL.

strawberry · 2014-03-12T21:39:42.000Z

This is a big ask for Elektron, Access spent years on the Virus TI before it was workable. Mine runs fine, but a lot of people still have major problems.

God only knows if my Virus and A4 will be able to work together, add my Push and Maschine into the equation and I can see some sleepless nights ahead. But if it all works together, I will be a very happy bunny, with a great set-up!

Big thanks to Elektron for yet another great freebee.

Moving from “boutique” to “big swinging dicks” with ease.

Congrats!!!

Peza · 2014-03-12T23:19:27.000Z

This is the reason why I’m such a huge fan of Elektron…by far and away some of the best hardware, customer support AND innovation that I’ve had the pleasure to use and enjoy…!!! Well done all at Elektron, awesome announcement!!

The only thing is though…Q4??? Maaaaaan its gonna kill us waiting…but then again, it will seem like a nice Christmas present!!

The countdown to Christmas begins…!!

Anigbrowl · 2014-03-12T23:54:32.000Z

""jaalmadakan"":

Unfortunately the Octatrack hardware don’t support Overbridge. But don’t worry - it is definitely not on its way out

I would pay for an hardware update to my OT to have it support such feature, and a Windows 7 based sample manager (at least something that lets me drag/drop samples in the audio pool, consolidate duplicates in the pool, preserve links if I move samples in other directories on the CF card, you get the idea.)

I was about to post the same thing. I’m very happy to see this coming to the A4 and it has definitely increased my interest in the AR too. Although I am not primarily computer based that’s partly out of necessity, if I can easily pull 6 channels into the computer from the A4 and do MIDI sequencing and FX loops you bet that I will doing that. And I still like mixing inside the OT…but being able to multitrack out of the OT would be super awesome.
Yes I said 6 channels. Cenk says in the Sonicstate video that it’s the main out 1+2, plus 4 individual mono tracks, so you can bring the effects in as stereo. Having it function as an audio interface is great.

Janos · 2014-03-13T00:06:50.000Z

As an economist (sorry, in the deepest of my thoughts I am exploring musical boundaries) I must admit this is sheer genious. Ever since I have bought a 4 × 1 mono analog sequencing machine, I have also received a beautifully sounding poly analog and probably a perfectly integrated vst instrument. All for the same price. Big bonus to the early adopters. As an MD (and underappreciated Nord drum) user, I probably don’t need an AR. But now I’m craving for one, cause I know it will be good. That’s confidence. Cudos to Elektron to have adopted such a fresh and forward looking business model. I’m hooked.