New academic paper on gear fetishism

Actually, I was working on a photoshoot last week and the photographer who was a woman around my age (in her 40s) and based on our conversations not particularly progressive referred to every inanimate object as she or her. Like when she was shooting a men’s cardigan she needs more softness or about a backdrop we need to move her… five days of that became very taxing but I’ve learned over the years to keep my mouth shut over mildly annoying things when a paycheck is involved.

#piratelivesmatter

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You trying playing MPC pads with a hook to get a hook and get back to me…

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My Fender Jazzmaster is named Clara.
I have actually given her a kiss a couple of times. :sweat_smile:

People think the world is flat, and that Elvis is still alive.

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I use argument in an “informal” way, not necessarily in a strict framework of debate, argument against argument. it can, of course, be a conversation, a thinking or something else ( Sometimes a really bad person (in every possible way) agrees with you and that’s enough to make you reconsider your position, without any word :slight_smile: )

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My wife and I treat gear as our children :joy:

The issue is not giving objects names or treating things like people.

In fact, it would be great if we all treated women like people and not like objects that solely exist for pleasure.

I’m not well versed enough in topics of sexism to explain why it is problematic to treat women and objects the same way. Am I wrong in assuming this is obvious?

And to those arguing about the male dominance of the field, i hope you can use your imagination and think that maybe there’s systemic reasons why it is like it is.

You do this?

Wait, you claim ‘we all’ do this? That’s quite an assumption.

Please don’t include me in this group of yours that does this. That’s creepy.

A couple notes as someone else in the same general universe as the authors. Things ARE changing in lots of places but there is also resistance. It takes 1-2 years for papers in the humanities and social sciences to be published, so it can’t be up to the minute.

While I have my own critiques of the paper, the behaviour they outline is still easy to find on gear forums.

100% with you there. The “I should be able to understand this paper with no effort or prior knowledge” or “I don’t like this because it doesn’t reproduce my own perspective” to me feels like a celebration of ignorance.

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Some people have pride in knowledge, some people find theirs in incuriousness.

The “r” word is rats right? People hate being called rodents.

C’mon she was trying to navigate becoming the first black woman to do something and needed to be approved by a bunch of white people who hate her, and whenever a black person is trying to do something for the first time you’ve got to zigzag like a motherfucker… surely you can understand that can’t you, I mean you didn’t genuinely think that that woman doesn’t know what it means to be a woman did you?

I did always have some embarrassment typing in the old name to the browser. It felt like I should have one of those tinted screens and be in “privacy” mode on my computer.

not social ineptitute but different audiences.

I can assure you that i would seem like a socially inept researcher if i was to give a talk (and i do from time to time) to blue collar workers and used the same language as i do when i talk to my academic colleagues… just like how you might want to explain why you like the the AH, in a different way to your parents than to other electronic musicians.

… and yeah i never liked the “old gearspace” name either.

(to be clear i do also, as a post-structuralist academic, have slight issues with the forcefulness and lack of potential alternative interpretations in the argumentation, but then again i have that with most academic papers i read )

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I tried to word it in the most inclusive way because it is a widespread issue. Some of us don’t, but that’s besides the point. Is that all you got from what I wrote? :roll_eyes:

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(Roll eyes emoji)

Did a quick read through. Seemed like it particularly referred back to “Gearslutz”. I really don’t see how any educated person could take a defensive stance over that name anyway. I’ve been lurking in this forum for years and it seems like the most inclusive place I’ve ever encountered on the internet. There is a bit of fetishized gear discussion but it’s mostly like “my Roland 303 is more real than your clone” and this will probably always occur on a forum about gear. There seems to be an issue with “wife memes” every now and then, too, which I was guilty of participating in before I was figuratively slapped upside the head. There just aren’t as many non-male participants on here, but that may change over time, and there are plenty of people ready to put you in your place should you become belligerent. It seems to work, and that’s probably why Elektronauts isn’t mentioned in that paper (I don’t think…). That’s my observation, anyway.

Suggesting systemic causes for this being a male dominated field? Nothing. Having used we instead of another word and you immediately respond.

Way to focus on what truly matters.

:roll_eyes:

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My point was to question the damage done by calling some nice things as “she” when it’s for many ppl perfectly okay that these words don’t even mean anything anymore, to the point that the person dealing the supreme justice cannot even function properly.

I’m comparing the victimless act of calling a car or synth “she” to the absolute mass psychosis that is oozing from the US to every civilized country on this planet.

Anecdotal yes, but all of my ex-girlfriends have done this with their favorite things as well.

Oh well…

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