This idea occured when thinking about my upcoming A4, but I’m currently trying with the OT, without success. But it should be the same on any box.
If you place a trig on the first step of track 1, with a probability of 50%, and a trig on the first step of track 2 , set to “not NEI”, then you have an either/or situation, where only one of the 2 tracks play. Cool.
But is there a way to extend this to more than 2 tracks with the currently available Trig Conditions ?
Yes, but I guess @chapelierfou would want to alternate at least another track, hence 3 different trigs, not played together. I already tried without success.
With OT, on one track what you can do is have a sample with recorded silence before, so that you can cut it silently. (Have to test again)
Yep but the original idea is on the A4 :
4 tracks, same sound in all tracks, but 4 different sequences, then the result would be random fragments of each 4 sequences, but each one at the correct “place” in the bar. Structured random.
If you know Ableton and random follow actions with “legato” enabled, you’ll know what I mean.
Or a bit like the “jump” pattern mode, with four patterns and only one track .
On 1 track you can make 2 different melodies btw. But you cannot record it live, and it doesn’t solve the problem of alternating more than 2 tracks with TRCs.
For A4 I thinking of chords that would block notes because of poly limitations, not sure if it’d work.
Random mutes/solo would do the trick.
Ah direct jump too indeed. And direct jump can be done with midi notes with multi map.
What do you mean ? The FILL pattern would not work here if it’s what you’re referring to.
In my case I was thinking 4 monophonic tracks. Or do you think that Elektron specifically made it not possible to prevent from happening in polyphonic modes ?
Nice idea…
If I get it correctly, you send 3 other tracks to the first track. Track 1 has a random arp so it freely choses 1 of the incoming notes.
But still, no different lengths for notes, no “groups” of notes (the choice would be made for each incoming note"), etc…
Like 3 consecutive notes that would always occur in a row.
I don’t think a per step random choice is super musical. I prefer working with small “units of music”.
I gave it a try with A4. No need for arp with the midi loopback stuff, if the track receiving midi note is mono or unison (not poly). I made 4 tracks with different melodies, set Probability to 50% for all. Seemed interesting to me.
You can set 2 tracks with NEI, 2 tracks with %.
Sampling with OT, random slices !
(In order to keep original melodies and stay in time, you need some megabreak of doom, or randomize slots with external midi.)
(On a same step position, track 1 have the highest priority, but its notes can be cut. Tracks 3 and 4 are playing continuously (alternatively), so they potentially cut notes; so it’s not perfect)
It’s a bit hard to tell what’s going on from your example (but they’re super helpful though!), I’d have to put my hands on it to really figure it out I guess. My A4 is on its way, so hopefully on Thursday !
I’m not sure how the Mutes work on the A4 (trigger or audio ?) but maybe there’s a way by muting track groups ?
Trigger mutes, so yes, there is something to do with track mutes, maybe with midi processing (mutes are per channel).
Imho the simplest and closest seem to alternate 4 patterns with Multi Map and its Direct Jump feature* : a random arp on 4 notes played from OT and you’re good (eventually CV/FX tracks with midi loop back and prob, unfortunately no midi arp).
*Multi Map has a specific Direct Jump setting (CHG MODE).
foiled again… direct jump doesn’t work when multimap is triggering the patterns - patterns always start at the beginning when triggered from a MM key
[edit] ohhh you can change its mode per zone with CHG MODE