Need a Cure for Part Reload

sezare56 · 2018-09-14T08:19:08.050Z

Workaround if you don’t use Reload part : don’t save parts at all. I barely save them, only if I want a quick Reload for live purpose, but never had a problem not saving them.

Some people seem paranoid with part saving, but all parts parameters are stored with the bank, so saving project is enough.

Sprottenkopf · 2018-09-14T08:44:53.836Z

Well that’s just the point. I seldom make use of parts, and when I this morning got into a nice flow I just forgot to save, untill I by mistake reloaded a part. This was a bank I cleared in a live project so it might have contained a saved state for the part. But do you mean that If I would use a completely clean bank&pattern reload part would do nothing if no prior save?

Ozone · 2018-09-14T08:54:51.980Z

Get a mk2? They have spaced the buttons slightly further apart.

sezare56 · 2018-09-14T09:03:43.900Z

Sprottenkopf:

But do you mean that If I would use a completely clean bank&pattern reload part would do nothing if no prior save?

You get “Save Part First” message, that all.

Sprottenkopf · 2018-09-14T09:31:35.541Z

That was new! Thank you! I’ll give it a try then!

Sprottenkopf · 2018-09-14T09:32:43.765Z

Quite a sales argument

Sprottenkopf · 2018-09-14T09:38:46.363Z

Ok. Won’t work on cleared parts. So one is forced to save a part to be on the Shure side. (I’m still in my live project on a cleared out pattern) Part reload defaults to samples 1-8 in the pool. Maybe dig out the files from the CF card and thrash them would clear the parts for real?

Clancy · 2018-09-14T09:44:23.900Z

sounds like a good idea. lets us know if it works out - would be a good way to protect those projects where you WERE saving & loading parts, but now want to protect it

sezare56 · 2018-09-14T10:14:33.143Z

Sprottenkopf:

Won’t work on cleared parts.

Yeah oddly it reloads the cleared state. I tryed copy / paste parts without success. Bank reload worked, but because my project was saved before I save a part.
If a part has a saved state, it is named PART 1 instead of ONE. Edit : not for TWO…

Only workaround I found, delete the bank with File manager. Error message but it creates a new clean bank. You’d have to copy / paste parts / patterns in another bank previously if you want to keep settings. Not very practical.

Edit : Other method, copy patterns and parts in a blank bank, eventually rename it in order to have it with a logical order / number. Parts should keep unsaved state after copy.

Sprottenkopf:

Maybe dig out the files from the CF card and thrash them would clear the parts for real?

Same behavior with a new project.

@rusty, definitely a job for OctaEdit ?

Rusty · 2018-09-14T10:18:51.733Z

sezare56:

@rusty, definitely a job for OctaEdit ?

Easy peasy, lemon squeezey. Welcome to the Library.

sezare56 · 2018-09-14T11:45:22.167Z

Other idea, if you don’t use all parts :
Use part 1 without saving and part 3 as backup, with copy paste. Save part 3 if you want.
Same for part 2 and 4.

Clancy · 2018-09-14T11:53:55.698Z

I have to double-like this!

Supercolor_T-120 · 2018-09-14T22:47:33.947Z

That’s what I find myself doing a lot of the time. Works pretty well. I rarely use more than 1 or 2 parts per bank anyhow.

Sprottenkopf · 2018-09-16T13:26:09.331Z

Well Shure. Parts are weary usefull indeed. The issue here was just that it’s a mess if you reload a part by mistake before you saved any.

LyingDalai · 2018-09-16T14:43:49.848Z

I suggest to put a sticker on the Cue button with a large X on it. Bright color, maybe yellow.
Should help to reach the correct muscle memory

Soham · 2019-03-08T16:12:25.647Z

I do not think it’s a memory problem, I was doing tests yesterday, twisting LFO’s, modifying parameters, etc, and when I got to a point where I liked how it was, by mistake I pressed FUNCTION + CUE (actually I was going to press FUNCTION + BANK) and I lost everything …
The least you should have thought for a PART RELOAD is to ask for confirmation …
Personally I think it’s a design error to make a Reload without confirmation and so close to the FUNCTION button.

LyingDalai · 2019-03-08T16:16:52.843Z

Thing is, with the time you learn to save your Parts more frequently;)

Soham · 2019-03-08T16:21:44.958Z

Of course! When I work on something serious, and see what happened to me, I will obsess about saving the parts
But no matter how much passion I have for my OT, not asking for confirmation in the PART RELOAD seems to me a very serious error, and very easy to correct on the other hand.

Clancy · 2019-03-08T17:09:31.357Z

Or learn never to save a part!

sezare56 · 2019-03-08T17:14:42.241Z

Clancy:

Or learn never to save a part!

Yes, that’s what I do. Save project only.
Nothing lost doing this.

For a live project, maybe I’d save parts.