NDLR - A Multi-Part Polyphonic Arpeggiator by Steven Barile

This is the screen (bit hard to photograph with my phone)

Clueless even with these instructions. I succeeded in upgrading the firmware by using the method where you have to push the button on the back of the NDLR for a second. Other methods didn’t work for me (I’m on a mac with Catalina)

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Couldn’t find any instructions anywhere for the " Rotation Algor instructions" :laughing:
Trial and error I guess, did you try to follow some of the instructions…, maybe I should update…, maybe not… haha

After digging through the manual again, I noticed that I need to check a few things…

Found this on forum:
Explain rotation algorithm

In which no one actually explains it, but maybe someone will be a long in a little while to do so

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Yeah, I am in that thread too. The guy explaining things, is telling us how some of the other basic functions work. Later on he admits he hasn’t got a clue either.

I tried pressing buttons/dialing in encoders, doing stuff with pattern 40 etc… But I just have too little basic info to understand what I am doing or what I am supposed to notice happening.

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Yes, it is you in that thread, sorry… :grin:

No real answers though…, I think I am happy for what NDLR does from what I know…, and I still have to dig a bit more myself.

Let us know if you achieve something useful, or just forget about it and focus on what you know.

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I just sent them a message to ask if they intend to release a note, do a video or add something in the manual to explain the new Features, in particular, the Rotation Algorithm.

I didn’t know about this Beta version (1.1.073) until today. I’m curious about this.

Are they too busy working on the MRCC?

That’s what I read too, here and there, but I really don’t know. A bit more info on this feature would only take a small effort, I guess. Hopefully they’ll post something in my thread on their forum. If they do so, I’ll be sure to reference it here.

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I just got an answer from CL :

Thanks for pointing this out, I am actually completely in the dark on the rotator algorithm myself. I am meeting with Steve [Tomorrow morning] and I will request a tutorial. Once I get it figured out I can post a tutorial in the forum.

Best regards,

Jesse

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Cool! :beers:

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my thoughts on the NDLR:
I bought NDLR a few days ago, expectations were high because the videos, comments, forums and reviews spoke well of the product as a solid and easy to use object. 400 euros for an arpeggiator, ok that’s a lot but it would have helped me a lot by letting me concentrate on sound design and on the evolution of all the instruments in the song. As soon as it arrived I was surprised by the lightness of that box, I think my pitchfactor is twice its weight and we are talking about a stompbox but ok it doesn’t have to have much inside if not connections, interface and a chip to make turn everything around but here the first question arose: Why does it cost so much? I’ve been using it for a few days and the feel of the buttons and knobs is nothing short of primitive, I’m fine if I buy a prototype for a beta test but it’s no longer a kickstart campaign. There are many problems and I am not referring to the submenus yet to be implemented (it is welcome to see that there is still room to develop new functions) but I am talking about the knobs that jump from one parameter to another without being pressed, the poor precision in insertion of the various parameters, the weak implementation of the pattern and rythm configurator.
I had a lot of integration problems with the various synths connected via midi and synchronization problems with ableton, tracks that stopped playing without a reason that for a product that simply has to do just that thing I’m sorry but I don’t find it acceptable.
There is still a lot to do and I am confident that Conductive Labs can do better and create a product worthy of the competition that in this last year has become enormous, just in the last month I have seen the birth of three other camps for products in the same segment, the market is there but you have to conquer it … see you next time

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The T-1 is one competitor — what are the other two?

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Oxi one should have almost the same features from what I understand from the terrible product demonstration videos, pyramid has many implementations of midi effect and midihub (the little box that must be programmed with the pc)

the function of being able to move all the instruments in a single key is interesting but for me the problems are more than the merits

T-1 does not gift you with named chord types and voicings in key. Though they cross over, I struggle to call them competitors.

Oh, I’ve got both and I’m not planning on giving up either one, but I see them in the same space of semi-generative sequencers.

Hrm. I guess you could build something somewhat similar from the midihub, but at that point, you might as well call a raspberry pi with a midi interface a competitor. The Oxi Harmonizer mode does look a bit similar, though, and definitely has the potential to be more performable, but we’ll see how it comes together. What are the similar Pyramid features?

IMHO the ndlr feels like a raspberry pi with a midi interface, and that is not a bad thing if all works well but as I said what I tried it seemed to me an approximate product. Yes also oxi one is still in a beta phase and I will not buy it until I have tried it or are certain that it is something valid. Pyramid has many midi effects with which you can experiment with fluctuations and movements and in addition to the already set chords you can create your own.
I don’t want to discourage anyone from trying ndlr, I think it should be tried like everything else.

What’s the point? Anyone who’s an engineer and or developer with lots of musc theory knowledge can do this. So go ahead and do it. Then sell it for 50 bucks to me so I can complain about it :woman_technologist:

NDLR is a great device. Could be a tiny bit cheaper .:: but then again ::. nah it’s fine - they made a good job imho.

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Misread you on first read :joy:, but completely agree!
I have a NDLR, I think it’s great… no complaints at all, for me it’s a cool little creative tool to pull out in place of a midi keyboard/seq any time you want a quick change of approach.

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