To be fair I still have my MPC, Tempest and Maschine. It would just be nice if I could play the AR in the same way I play all my other gear with pads :([/quote]
on the bright side maybe they all got it wrong and Rytm will blow your finger sox off…
Seriously, I don’t think the elektron sequencer would be capable to capture those nuances of detailed fingerdrumming incl. rolls, flams etc… even on 32nd resolution, with that single step resolution, even with microtiming, etc… you’ll be better off using a standard high-resolution sequencer for that.
The Elektron-sequencer is primarily a step-sequencer with some real-time recording features to make recording easier but rather in the tradition of roland’s x0x machines.
But I agree, Elektron should be very carful when marketing this machine to the hip-hop community as they will be very disappointed. Also for the missing sampling functionality.
So an OT with an external drum pad would be closer to an MPC but still, there’s no substitute to a hardware MPC without having to use a computer.
Btw. will it be possible to P-Lock velocity in Grid-Mode? I think that would be more than essential for this machine! The A4 can’t do this and I don’t know about the OT.
But I agree, Elektron should be very carful when marketing this machine to the hip-hop community as they will be very disappointed. Also for the missing sampling functionality.
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I don’t understand why you assume hip-hop producers couldn’t use this as a tool to craft beats.
We’re not looking for an all-in-one instrument…that shit is boring and passe. An MPC today is just another tool in the lab.
We like options:)
The A4 totally lets you p-lock velocity, i just checked it right now.
Seriously, I don’t think the elektron sequencer would be capable to capture those nuances of detailed fingerdrumming incl. rolls, flams etc… even on 32nd resolution, with that single step resolution, even with microtiming, etc… you’ll be better off using a standard high-resolution sequencer for that.
The Elektron-sequencer is primarily a step-sequencer with some real-time recording features to make recording easier but rather in the tradition of roland’s x0x machines.
But I agree, Elektron should be very carful when marketing this machine to the hip-hop community as they will be very disappointed. Also for the missing sampling functionality.
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I gotta agree with the above… it isn’t at all about the pad layout being left or right but much about the sequencer not handling events above 1/32 resolution… i actually hope elektron are considering 1/64 res & unquantized beats or it will most likely fail in hip-hop production circles & other non 4/4 beat-centric genres…
I don’t understand… how does microtiming not address your guys’ needs??
Yeah it resolves to the same as the mpc 60 / 3000. 1/384th notes.
micro timing is an editing feature… it is certainly great but most finger drummers like to tap their beats in live, micro editing back & forth 32nd note events on a complex beat can be time consuming not mention totally lose the intended groove to start with, that is why imo AR needs higher quantize resolution in live record mode if it wants to compete / grab the attention of the hip-hop / finger-drumming market. BTW MPC 60/3000 is 96ppq with 1/8, 1/8t, 1/16, 1/16t, 1/32, 1/32t & OFF (1/384) quantise options. If AR had such options it could totally corner the MPC/Tempest market, and not be stigmatised as a x0x step sequencer with limited real-time recording. Hope you guys @ HQ are listening 
I think I’m still confused; I recall being able to turn off quantization, and even being able to adjust the percentage of quantization of sequences recorded in real-time when I used to own the A4.
And this applies to AR also
You can easily get 1/64th resolution. Double down on your BPM and enjoy the 2 bars.
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Is that the main guy at @HQ?
If so he doesn’t have any fingers for drumming. 
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Yeah it resolves to the same as the mpc 60 / 3000. 1/384th notes.
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So when “finger drumming” with quantization off, does this hold true. Is it what Cenk meant?
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Yes exactly. I forgot to say with quantize off. Thanks.
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so quantize can be turned off like on A4/OT… but what about hard quantize settings like 1/8,1/32, triplets etc…?
You should probably try reading the sequencing section of the A4 manual; I’m guessing most of the quantization features will be implemented in a similar way.
Xanax you don’t seem to actually know anything about the A4 quantization. It’s on page 34 of the manual, but in brief yu can set either global or individual tracks to quantize to 16ths, with strength from 0 (none at all) to 128 (hard 16ths).
Are you saying you want the option to quantize to specific values as well? Because resolution is not the problem here. On the other hand, for very complex rhythms the Elektron gear is always going to be limited by the 16 steps of the sequencer unless you double the BPM or use some other workaround. I do think the A4 and AR should use the same scheme as the OT, allowing scale multipliers for pattern length on each track so they can play back at double or half time. This would be handy on the A4 for chords, pads and suchlike, while on the AR it would lend itself to much more complex rhythmic structures. Scale multipliers are part of what makes the OT sequencer so powerful and I was very surprised not to see them included in the A4.
I am less sure about being able to auto-quantize to 1/32 or 1/64 or triplets or whatever. IT’s true that using Elektron gear requires you to do more mental math and I’ve often wondered if LFOs and other things might not be better labeled with musical intervals…on the other hand, once you go down that road do you flash up things like ‘1/32’ or ‘32nds’ or go the Roland route and show musical notation symbols (that many electronic musicians don’t know how to read properly).
Many people are better off with a large screen sequencing approach as found on Yamaha/MPC/Roland sequencers that allows traditional and intuitive displays like piano rolls or event lists. However that’s a quation of user interface rather than sequencer resolution.