Hi friends, rather new to the Octatrack (but I’m learning).
I’m setting up a pattern with sample slices, and I was hoping that I could trigger different slices based upon the fill mode being activated or not. So this would mean that for instance step 10 should play slice 1 on regular playback, and slice 2 with fill mode activated.
This can be achieved by adding step 11, microtiming it all the way back so it practically triggers at the same moment as step 10, and set a different condition. A bit cumbersome, because you’re sacrificing a step, but it works.
However, and now you’ll probably start laughing: ChatGPT keeps insisting that you can set a trig, nudge it +1 microtime, assign a condition, and then put another trig on the very same step, with a different condition at the 0 microtime position. It’s even referring to the official manual chapter about microtiming, quoting:
Chat GPT is BSing. If you want to swap sounds you have 2 options on the OT.
Put two trigs and use microtiming to nudge one almost all the way back. Put the regular sound on Trig #1 with a -Fill condition, put the special sound on trig #2 with a +fill (or -Previous) condition.
or (hard mode)
Don’t use microtiming, but use the retrig function on an earlier step with a long Retrig Time parameter, and attach a -Fill conditional to that. Put your second sound on trh trig youin the normal way with a Fill condition. This way you can seem to switch two or more notes off with a single conditional lock. Works better with sounds that have a short envelope like drum hits or plucks, assuming you’re after rhythmic rather than textural effects.
I think the mods are doing their best, being extra careful. I do now feel suspicious of every new “help me” topic TBH, and I didn’t used to feel that way. Very discouraging when it impacts the moment when you decide “is it worth helping this person?” because the innocent will then suffer for it as well.
I’m still here. Somehow Elektronauts had me reconfirm my account, so that’s probably the reason for the message of me no longer being active.
Thanks for helping! I thought LLMs might be trusted with things as structured as a device’s user manual, but clearly they start making random stuff up even then.
Lesson learned, and sorry for the inconvenience I may have caused here.
The variations for your trig would then be placed as altered sounds in one sample file, sliced (given numbers to sample positions) and via LFO or SCENE assignment you alter the SL number of the track trigs. But as this influences the whole track you would then trig lock all trigs where you want a fixed appearance.
As you can also have a slice with silence in it you can do fun trickery and a trig play silence, in other words even playing atop (effectively silence) the tracks default slot‘s sample.
Its not same as setting multiple conditional trigs but at least you can have variations in the track.
Another way is to set indeed two trigs one is moved maximal forward (Microtiming) the other maybe maximal moved backward (Microtiming). The trigs would still be at least one tick away from each other, barely noticeable.
5ms at 120 bpm.
They can be on the same position (Trig A -23 / Trig B +1).
Trig B can even be before Trig A but I can’t remember any useful trick with that…
