MPC Thread : MPC Live - MPC X - MPC One (Part 2)

Yeah I was drooling over the pads for the one plus until I watched an install video and the guy that did it basically said they weren’t a night and day performance upgrade… it’s a lot of work and money, diminishing returns and all that…

Not sure direct at me, but it was chopping up samples with keys like the korg microsampler instead of pads. I could play samples with keys after chopping was done via pads

4 weeks now… Hurry up AKAI, I’ve got songs to arrange on a timeline. :stuck_out_tongue:

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I just posted cuz I was asked about disassembly for clean up. it just seems too finicky to fuck with. never understood the sloppy build style. you’d think they would design it a little more modularly…efficiently. not so Joe Blow at home could take it apart. but for assembly. :man_shrugging:t5:

anyways this vid was the one that kept me from trying to take it apart to clean the case.

Song mode vs arranger…

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Even if the entirety of the system came out in one piece it’d probs make it a more appealing scenario but as it stands I wouldn’t want to attempt it, I’m pretty adept at this stuff but there’s just too much that could go wrong imho to make it worth while… I still reckon a skin would do the job though if you can get the worst of it off, my old push 2 went tacky and I put a skin on it without managing to remove all of the coating, it stuck down just fine for what it’s worth, as long as you can get the dust off of it before applying you should be good to go…

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Eh … I’m not sure if I’m following this correctly but is he suggesting at the end that the existing song mode is gone in 3.0 as well? He says something like the public beta will have track mutes in arranger view so allow you to work like song mode?

Until now it never occurred to me that they’d be going this far - but he’s talking like the current one is going away and making a pitch to save it?

Fwiw I am still pretty convinced that locking programs to tracks will be enough in and of itself to kill this way of working even assuming that the mutes/song mode stuff stays as is, but it would be just absolutely demented to me that they’d intentionally set out to eradicate every last trace of the MPC way of doing things.

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That process that Marlow shows is what’s so good about the MPC workflow.
As long as that remains in place, and you can record your Seq/Track Mute improvs INTO the Arrangement, it should be good. It would become another level of capture.

Thank you for posting this!

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I dunno.I’m finding it all confusing…but I like the way he works.So it’s concerning for sure.

It’s exactly how I use the MPC even though I do pretty different stuff. Like I say for me personally the programs change is most likely going to be fatal, but at least I can see the logic behind it even if I personally am as certain as I can be right now that I’ll hate it. But it doesn’t make any real sense to me why they’d also kill song mode.

This is in the comments:

It’s still there but broken. The song mode users just want to insure it’s properly fixed so they can continue to use it.

I guess there’s a lot of knock-on stuff that follows from killing the program/track/sequence basis of the MPC, track mutes being one, exploding tracks as well, this may be another. But at least it’s possible that they’ll be able to hack together a fix for a lot of these even if the imho fundamental problem is completely baked in.

Same here!

I did not have the impression that Akai was removing Song Mode in OS 3.0, especially because someone demonstrated how powerful they could be in tandem. You could figure out a part of your song in Song Mode then Convert to a Sequence, then be able to see that chunk/part in the Arrange view. I think I would find that valuable.

It is very hard to be patient and not speculate about how it will/will not work, so in the interim, just going to keep working on songs and learning the MPC. :slight_smile:

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At this point they’d probably want to get on and release what they’ve got for better or for worse.

Everything I’ve been seeing second hand makes it look less like an update and more like vandalism. But even if it goes the way I think it will in terms of - for me - negative changes, and everything I’ve seen since the announcement just confirmed the suspicions I had from day one, it’s harder to gauge the stuff that might be more positive without trying it out.

It might even be that skeptics like me end up thinking that it’s all worthwhile when we see the full picture, but one way or the other this drip feed of is only going to create more negativity.

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I agree with this, especially the ‘vandalism’… I haven’t seen/read anything since the MPC3.0 announcement where I don’t think that the prominent people controlling its evolution don’t fully understand it in the first place, which is a worry. And sucks.
I hope I’m wrong, genuinely.

It seems that their idea is that the end goal is a linear DAW system/approach, and it’s mainly the non-linear power of the MPC to this point that’s garnered such a strong fan/user base.

Obviously, its now 3 months on since the big announcement and none of us mere punters are any the wiser. :disguised_face:

Weeks, rather than months…?

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It’s been 84 years!

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This has been the ‘longest delay’ I’ve heard since an announcement was made. The news ‘reverberated’ so much with the community, that a lot of peoples inner ‘filters’ shut off as they saw no ‘limit’ to what would be possible with 3.0.

Now we’re left at the ‘gate’ waiting to ‘arrange’ our music in a more ‘linear’ fashion while a group of us sing our ‘song’ of the good old days before the future has even arrived beneath our ‘pad’ tapping fingers…

exactly-right

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In comparison the 404MKII and the addition of the sequencer was considered vandalism by OG users and turned out to be an amazing piece of gear!

It’s possible everything is going to be alright! I hope so!

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I was born and will probably die in the space between 3.0 beta for elites and 3.0 beta for plebeians.

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I suspect there’s a problem with the software, and I also suspect they’re planning to charge people cash money for it on existing hardware.

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