MPC Thread : MPC Live - MPC X - MPC One (Part 2)

I notice he didn’t really say anything bad about 3.0. Now, could’ve just really like it, come on, It’s always something. Dope beat, but sometime that can be distraction.

I don’t think his review was all that balanced, especially for a legacy user. I wish he’d talk more about some issues those legacy users will face with 3.0 beside just loading more tracks to have more programs at once. Maybe that whole thing was overblown & the workarounds aren’t that bad once you get the project going. Which is what I think will be the case for most users. I’ll check out his channel later. so thinks to the dude that posted this.

The arranger is cool, but kinda of clunky to use & it’s best to do most of the composing before you get to the arranger.

Mark my words, the more MPC users use the arranger & 3.0 in general the more their gonna request MIDI clips & then the clips matrix. Welcome to the Darkside of the Force!

Or you could just apply to be in the closed beta. It’s not a secret society and there’s no bar to getting involved apart from not being involved in testing a Direct competitors products, I got knocked back before because I was still actively involved in the maschine beta… obviously previous beta testing experience is desirable but I don’t think it a prerequisite…

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Could someone that is running the current v2.xx OS on a Live 2 just have a quick check of something for me as I’m at work just now and can’t do it myself?

Just on any sequence where you have a drum program that’s sequenced and playing, can you go to the (I think) 2nd mute page which is the program level and tell me if the pads flash as they are triggered or if they are just solid?

If you can say: how stable and reliable are you finding the betas to be so far?

I usually resist betas because in the past it has sometimes become like a second job to deal with issues, but with other products has been indistinguishable from last official release.

I’ve only had one session freeze up so far, it didn’t result in any lost time or data… I think it mostly stemmed for having a few to many plugins on the project because when I bounced and removed fabric it settled down…

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they flash

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Since they’re revamping stuff for the MPC. One thing I wish they implement as a paid plugin would be some midi generative stuff. Also thought the Scaler app would be something Akai could get influence from and built their own version. The chords section is so barebones and basic.

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Thanks so much for checking, another little bug on its way to being squashed.

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Moan about generative features...

I’m sure you mean well and have some creative ideas in mind but all this move to generative midi stuff makes me wonder if people who want it shouldn’t just listen to music rather than make it. Or if it’s some strange halfway medium we’re getting to. Maybe like that Stem player thing launched with Kanye a few years back.

Having chords already set out is fine and a good composition tool but you’re already missing out on playing with different voicings. Having whole patterns generated randomly or otherwise makes it seem like you’re not drawing but colouring in. But colouring in is fun too I suppose.

Tech is there to help and I’m all for it in many many ways, but when it starts generating melodic and harmonic material it seems a bit much.

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There is already a generate random events section in the pencil menu of a track where you can generate um, random midi events and set the scale, scaling etc.

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I love when my robot musical servants make me music.

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I understand, knowing music theory is good but it’s just nice to have a fun playground to play with. I mean scaler is such a useful tool to help me figure out progressions and chords I never have used or thought about. I don’t think such an inclusion would be a net negative. Think scaler, again explores voicings, and other things but I love to have an addition like that.

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I’m talking about something like Scaler.

For anybody who’s worried about/ affected by the midi note off bug, I came across a workaround on MPC Forums. I haven’t personally set it up yet, but it looks promising. I know this isn’t as sexy as discussing the MPC 3 beta, but I figured there has to be at least one other person here interested in this.

Guess I’ll add “sequence my MPC from my Cirklon” to my list of weekend to-do items!

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I want the preview in the browser to have the option of playing the whole sample instead of however many seconds the limit is in the mpc preferences and the options to just loop it as well… hope you guys can slip that into the beta

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Oh hell yeah. Someone should build an enclosure that can be 3d printed for that. Going to look into this when I have a chance…

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Ok, I got a head start sequencing MPC from Cirklon and things are mixed so far. On the upside: the method I linked above does indeed seem to work with plugin instruments.

However, I’m extraordinarily confused about drum programs and the MPC’s midi mapping. On the default drum programs, Cirklon needs to send C3 and up for pads in Bank A. If I look at the program’s midi mapping on MPC, it’s set for C1 and up. Now, this kind of mismatch isn’t entirely unusual, and this seems to work quite well. I experienced a similar oddity with the Dirtywave m8, though the note offset there is 1 octave instead of 2. Not a big deal.

Things get weird with my custom programs. The default midi mapping of those is a funky standard midi drum mapping. I changed it to be a chromatic mapping via the pad midi mapping menu, and when I did that my programs just… broke. Don’t know what went wrong, but some pads no longer trigger at all even when hitting them on the MPC after switching the midi mapping from the default to the “Chromatic” preset. Problem doesn’t go away until I hard reset the device (power off/on). While investigating this, I experienced two crashes, both of which soft reset the MPC (sent me back to the Load Project menu). One of those crashes occurred when trying to save a project, the other when trying to open Pad Mutes. I’m on 2.14. I’m pretty sure my programs were made pre-2.11, which is apparently when Akai changed the default drum program pad midi mapping.

I’m guessing I’m just going to have to recreate my older drum programs. Bummer, but gives me an opportunity to craft more drum kits, which can be its own fun.

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It’s always something, but you got the right mindset at end. Have fun!

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I got a few more bits of info from this one…

Hold MAIN and select your track has been around for ages… I’ve seen a few YouTubers think this is a new 3.0 feature.

Also, still no sign of MPC 3.0 general public beta, 6 weeks after taking over everyones YouTube feed… I can only think there must be a TON of bug fixing going on right now.

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