MPC Thread : MPC Live - MPC X - MPC One (Part 2)

[Bcharlie]

What are the arms being used to hold the ipad and digi?

[muzka]

I’m not hating btw. I think the touch screen is a great addition. I know purists may look negatively upon it but I think it opens up music production to a new market that are the touchscreen generation.

And my point is that it’s a standalone touch and akai promoted that addition of the touchscreen.

I don’t mean it’s solely a touchscreen device btw but it as a touch screen device with dedicated controller. Basically a touch screen computer with midi controller and that’s again is no bad thing.

I loved mine but I just preferred ableton with a controller. I recommend them all the time and I think it’s the best standalone alternative to a daw for full music production. All the arguing is just silly and lots of people waiting to get annoyed for and against the machine.

[aortan]

I get it. And of course people can criticize whatever gear they want, I didn’t make the thing! But it just feels a bit tiring when it’s a constant flood of uninformed critique. Especially when some things are reiterated over and over.

@muzka

but it as a touch screen device with dedicated controller. Basically a touch screen computer with midi controller and that’s again is no bad thing.

That can be said for every single sampler, digital synth, or digital groovebox, since the 70s. They are computers with physical controls, specialized features, screens. The screen may have touch function or not, it’s still a computer with a controller

[Suspect_Frequency]

@Bcharlie

What are the arms being used to hold the ipad and digi?

Yep

[djst]

@aortan

Now you can have individual track lengths for each existing and new sound, or group

When I did that in the past, things broke down when turning a song into a new sequence. The shorter looped tracks only had midl data for bars 1-2 in an 8 bar sequence.

Perhaps they’ve solve those bugs now? But given the other pad and track mute bugs in there, I assume not.

[djst]

@djst

One thing I had sort of forgotten about the MPC workflow is that you start with a short 1 or 2 bar loop to quickly lay down the foundations of a beat, but as soon as you want to make a chord progression at around 8 bars, you have to commit to a longer sequence and any additional percussions after that need to be programmed across all 8 bars or you have to use the clunky copy features. It would be nice if it was somehow possible to keep individual lengths and time scales per drum pad ‘lane’ somehow.

Let me try to clarify this a bit:

So, going from a fully programmed 2-bar loop and pressing 2X works fine as a way to double the length of the entire sequence.

But let’s say you want to start with a chord progression first on a pad or bass, and then program the drums. Then you can certainly make the drum program track 2 bars only and have it loop, but if you later convert that to a song or want to apply automation on some things across the 8 bars of drums, then you have no choice but to make sure the drums are actually sequenced across 8 bars vs just looping after 2 bars. And you can’t press 2X for that since that will just make the full sequence 16 bars instead.

[mimetaur]

I end up using copy events in the sequence menu a ton because of this. I used to do it in the piano roll but was just too fussy and error prone.

On my tracks it’s pretty common to have a sequence long enough to include some polymeter and then do something like “copy bars 1-5 four times” via the copy events option.

There are def more elegant sequencers for this sort of thing (different track lengths etc) but there’s just something I find weirdly satisfying about brute forcing it all in the MPC sequencer.

[djst]

Yeah, that’s how I solve it in the end, through various forms of that copy menu. With some bug fixes, it would definitely have been easier.

[captain8]

FLIP MELODIES WITH ANY SAMPLER // My Workflow on the MPC ONE

[djadonis206]

I’ve been using MPCs (and the modern MPCs) for years. On the newer ones, how do you set a track to any length?

I’ve only been able to set individual tracks to multiple of 2s other than the first bar, (2 beats, 4, 6, 8 etc.) Odd numbered beats are a mystery to me.

[Elijah]

Tap the ‘Length’ in the track row on the main screen and change it from ‘Seq’ to the desired number of beats. (Even if you set the track to 17 beats, please note that it will loop at 16 beats if the sequence is one bar long.)

[Hooked]

Did anyone see this?

JURA Chorus Insert Effects Plugin | AIR Music Tech

Sorry if already mentioned, I stopped following her temporarily.

[Lieder]

If Air/Akai don’t offer this plugin free to people who bought Jura, it will make them look even more greedy and stupid then some of there recent business choices already have done.
I own a ton of software plugins for my DAW and I’ve never had to do anything let alone pay more money to use their effect sections as an effect insert.

[percussionboy]

I’m fascinated that the most active thread on an Elektron forum is about MPCs, and that the posts are mostly complaints.

It’s like the MPC is the supervillain Elektron users love to hate.

[CCMP]

I get your point, there are a lot of complaints, but there’s a ton more appreciation and respect here for the MPC than there is negativity… C’est la vie… it’s human behaviour.

Also, my personal read is that there is a disconnect between the MPC platform/user base and inMusic’s business approach/methodology (presenting as Akai), and it’s the latter that gets/deserves the usual pushback.

[HisNameIsAlive]

@Hooked

Did anyone see this?

JURA Chorus Insert Effects Plugin | AIR Music Tech

Sorry if already mentioned, I stopped following her temporarily.

Yeah it was mentioned a couple of days ago some way up in this thread, but it got buried by people talking about MPC touch screens and other stuff.

[Hooked]

I actually left the thread out of the reasons you mentioned.

My philosophy stands: Don’t like it? Don’t buy it.
No humor? No me hanging around here.

The device is incredible even if you don’t buy any of the payed content InMusic offers.

Thank you for letting me know @ HisNameIsAlive

[Hooked]

@percussionboy

… and that the posts are mostly complaints.

It’s like the MPC is the supervillain Elektron users love to hate.

[enzo]

@aortan

That can be said for every single sampler, digital synth, or digital groovebox, since the 70s. They are computers with physical controls, specialized features, screens. The screen may have touch function or not, it’s still a computer with a controller

I agree with this. Even when i got my One i had all those criticisms about it feeling too close to a computer in the back of my mind. As someone who is pretty averse to making music with a mouse/keyboard i was concerned.

However I’m finding the experience very tactile and immersive with my left hand on the screen or auditioning pads, right hand on q links, jog wheel, or buttons. I dabble in ipad production every now and then and i like it but it’s still a bit too close to computer-ish feeling for me to use it over the mpc — All that to say mpc feels like the right balance

[muzka]

People that have never owned one unfairly judge it and those who own one become too easily triggered. It’s a vicious circle of back and forth