MPC Thread : MPC Live - MPC X - MPC One (Part 2)

@JohntheSavage is one of my absolute Elektronaut-heroes. We share a similar taste in gear (MPC, Linnstrument, Loopers) but unlike me John seems to actually do something worthwhile with his gear.

John is always well behaved and good mannered, the voice of reason among us childish, immature twats. I salute you, John! Keep up the great work!

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That’s me, right? I can eat some underpants too, if that’s more your thing :smirk:

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Come on over, Circuit…

I’ll cook, you bring the wine (whatever pairs well with a cotton-polyester blend).

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Cheers!

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Thanks, Wolf.

Cheers!

P.S. The pursuit of music is always worthwhile.

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Is anyone using this stand with the MPC live 2?

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I consider myself a mature twat these days!!

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Ageists, right?

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Cheers!

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I strongly considered this stand for the live MKI, looks to be perfect. Saw it in a YouTube video and he was rolling it around the studio. I’ll see if I can find it.

Had to look this word up, so yeah!! Ha!!

I’m thinking about this to:

  • free up desk space
  • seems like a perfect height for finger drumming
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I’m kinda new to MPC world but has the latest update changed it so that when you go back to main, the expanded view (as in the eyeball inspector thing) is open by default and taking up the screen space that’s nicer for me to have the assign samples/edit samples/sounds buttons in the individual progam area?

It feels like I’m constantly having to unflip the eye button whenever I move between screens (which is a lot)

Here’s the video, I’m not sure it’s the exact stand but looks close!!

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Got some good vintage stuff here, it’ll pair well with your 34-yeared aged garment :sweat_smile:

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Not sure I noticed this. The eye window is still mostly closed on my end, I hardly remember it’s there.

Seems like the perfect height…

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I do tend to wear boxers till they more closely resemble a loincloth.

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But how about that MPC, eh?

Cheers!

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As a mental warmup to the idea of re-purchasing the MPC and use it as a creative sketchpad groovebox rather than something to achieve radio ready mixes on, I took an old project that was already mixed on the MPC and exported the stems to get going with mixing in the daw.

But oh my god the export feature and overall workflow and UI is so confusing! :see_no_evil::face_with_symbols_over_mouth: It works reaaonably well for normal Programs, but exporting a drum program is a living nightmare. It seems like if you route pads to a different Submix channel, those pads will for whatever reason be rendered as silent stems. And routing them to a different output means foregoing the inserts, which means the stems won’t come out the way you heard them on the MPC.

Converting a Song to a new Sequence is also littered with bugs. Nevermind the fact that tracks and programs need to be aligned across sequences because I had already made sure I did that - but it seems to make all sorts of pad and track mute mistakes when converting. It boggles my mind that it can play a song perfectly, yet fail to render that as a new sequence! How can Akai not have tested this at least once after all these years and noticed the obvious bugs? Is anyone working on QA there? :see_no_evil:

Anyway, the only half decent way to export all pads of a drum program I could think of was to export the Submix itself as a stereo track and do it one by one or in groups of related pads. I have to Solo both the program and the relevant pads first. At least this method seems to work. I’ve tried other things like exporting to different outs but for some reason I still occasionally end up with silent stems. It really is a mess.

And let’s not even talk about how once you’ve soloed something, you have no idea where you need to go to unsolo because it might have been a track, or a program, or a sub mix and there’s no easy way to tell on which page you’re supposed to go to. It’s like Akai added the Submix paradigm without ever testing the core functionality and they don’t really want you to use it. I even restarted the project a couple of times because I assumed it was a bug, but eventually I found where I had Soloed something.

Last but not least the explode track feature. What a mess with the naming of the tracks, the UI to pick track, no way to group and re-merge tracks again, no way to remove multiple tracks at once.

If I get an MPC again, I definitely will avoid things like Submixes at all cost and keep things simple and flat instead to ensure I can export and mix easily. No fancy routing to Submixes and probably no Sends either. Linear, flat routing and minimum of mixing, an eq at most. Basically I’ll treat the MPC as a more capable Syntakt and pretend the more complex mixing capabilities don’t exist.

Sorry for the rant. I wish Akai was reading it but it’s been years since I first discovered some of the above bugs so I’ve lost faith in their appetite for quality fixes.

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Man, am I ever glad I just use this thing as a drum machine…

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Cheers!

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I actually do.

Initially I bought it for the Akai Force.

At the moment I use it with a Squarp Hapax.

I can make a photo with a MPC Live ll if needed, can highly recommend the thing.

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This is what I did, it made the device far easier to manage. I did a lot of careful balancing/ sound selection and just tracked in my drums (the only sounds I used it for) from the MPC as a stereo track. I did my best to EQ in the box if necessary when finishing a song. Later on I started tracking the kick on one output and then the rest of the drums on another, so I could sidechain and properly mix my low end.

Sub mixes, sends, FX, etc are really only useful if you’re going to be doing most of your song on the MPC and not tracking into a DAW in my opinion.

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