Yeah, agree. I'm open to persuasion but will need to see and hear a whole lot more.
Also not sure about the touchscreen and DAW in a box approach. You know, so what if it's standalone? Is it really that difficult to plug in a usb cable and boot up a laptop?
I already have in maschine and ableton push, two tightly integrated DAW / controller solutions, finding it hard to get too enthusiastic about another one. The only reason I've held on to my MPC1k is that it offers a change of workflow when I feel like, which won't be the case with these.
Finding it kinda weird that the reaction on the internet in general seems way more positive towards these than towards the MPC Touch, when they're essentially slightly different implementations of the same thing.
One thing I am looking forward to though is people making a big deal out of their Hardware Only™ setup when they have basically a computer and daw in a box sitting in front of them.