MPC Live & MPC X


#5157

Yep. But the OT commands and deserves attention. I’m very singular when it comes to gear.

So for me, this is a kind of philosophical exploration as well. Who do I rather want to be? The experimental musician on the OT, or the more traditional on the MPC?

The one could make the other shine more brightly, of course. So we’ll see. For now, I’m still learning.


#5158

Yesterday i took a splice account. I like it better than sounds.com
The integration is amazing, splice has amazing content. Making drum and bass has never been this easy and fun


#5159

The two are great combo. The audio out of OT can be directed to MPC in, and vice-versa, the OT hd can be mount in MPC via usb. You don’t have to struggle to know if your experimental or traditional musician. You can be all of them in once.
Try the combo and choose later.
Futhermore, you can be experimental with MPC (even if it’s more in OT ADN :wink:


#5160

I’ve really tried to dig in on the MPC Live.

I’ve had it for 8 months now and used it as a summing mixer for my synths and sequencing some of them. Recently I took the time to really try and learn it, so I made a cpl of beats purely on the MPC. And while I live a lot of it’s functionality, it is just really boring machine. I actually kinda hate the standalone workflow to the extent that I’m thinking of selling it and get a octatrack and use that as a 4 mono input mixer and audio crazinator.

I basically do all my song structuring on the OP-Z and I am perfectly fine with being tied down to 1-16 bars of loops.

But before I go about selling the live, I want to give it one last chance to wow me. So does anybody have any tips on how to make it fun? Any unorthodox sample manipulation tips etc.?


#5161

I do not think the Live is the machine for unorthodox sample manipulation, there are a few things you can do, like 4 different long samples with different loop settings per pad, but the OT is the sample mangler, the MPC in my mind is more of a straight-up sampler/sequencer.


#5162

I am making a live set on this one
Strange enough, after 3 songs it says 95% storage used
I think the problem is the ram
So i can only use ram and have 3 songs in a project?
In stead of 16 i planned in my 1 hour dnb live set?


#5163

Storage is storage. Not ram as far as I know. Are you using the internal drive?


#5164

thank you
so if I store a live set on an SD card
then I load it
Do I understand correctly that it will temporary store the project to the internal HD.
and that’s why it is suddenly loaded to 95%?


#5165

There’s no disk-streaming on the MPC Live; so yes, when you load a project from your SD card, thumb drive, or external SSD, all your samples get stored temporarily in the 2 gigs of internal RAM (which is also used to run the operating system, FX, plugins, etc.).

It works out to a usable space for about 45 - 53 minutes worth of samples; which is plenty if you’re using one-shots of a reasonable length. However, if you’re using a ton of plugins, FX, and long stereo audio tracks, then yes, you’ll run out of RAM quickly. Again though, consider what the MPC was designed for, right?

Cheers!


#5167

Live and X both have a great sounding phono preamp if you sample from vinyl ----not even a Pioneer Nexus phono stage will match the Live/X quality ----that is worth price of admission alone !


#5168

A quick update on this issue.

Akai sent me a file to reinstall the factory content.
A really simple process, which took about 20mins.

Everything’s now back to normal.


#5169

Does anyone have a Force and an Mpc Live/X?

I’ve just sold my OT and was going to buy a backup Mpc Live. Now thinking about getting a Force, for making more melodic techno type tracks.

I’ll still use the Force standalone and i’m interested in the workflow differences.

Cheers!


#5170

I have MPC live and force. Not using the force yet, waiting for OS updates to get me back to it. I’m sure it will be a great bit of kit once the OS matures though.

In its current state the force is workable, but the outstanding bugs annoy me and keep me using other gear (1st world problem I know lol). You can make music with it already, but the full potential of the force is yet to come IMO.


#5171

Is your intention to use them together or do think you’ll end up with just one? Do you think you’ll make different types of music on each machine?


#5172

My intentions are varied, but most of the long-term plans revolve around the coming of MPC 3.0 which will hopefully unify the project compatibility of both machines. When that becomes a reality, I intend to use the MPC live at home and the force at my project studio (because of ableton integration, I will also be able to use the force as an ableton controller), ultimately dumping resources from both ableton and MPC projects into the force for playing gigs with.

None of this will be a reality for me until Akai sorts out the software… its a waiting game ATM. I anticipate MPC 3.0 to drop within the next two years…

You might think “Who the f#ck buys an expensive piece of hardware only to wait years until they can actually starrt using the piece as they intended?” Guess that makes me a sucker LOL. My only excuse is, I don’t know if I coulda been able to afford the force hadnt I bought it now (gloomier financial times ahead and all that). So I am gambling with Akai, hoping that Dan will lead us all to victory :nyan:


#5173

This sounds dangerous. Don’t get me wrong, I’m hoping for the same thing, I own an MPC Live, but in 2+ years of owning that machine, every time I get close to a usable workflow, I find a show-stopping quirk in the software, something so basic and still not implemented that it makes me think again that Akai is outdated and will not show the software quality that is needed without a deep change within the company. The amount of stuff that needs fixing is big for any company and, IMO, too much for them:

  • Automation lanes & automation management in general. Workable but not great and definitely not at the level of p-locking. This is a real issue for people who need to introduce evolution and mutation in sounds, not so much for trap beat makers so this is why it wasn’t a priority for Akai I guess…

  • Disk streaming: one could do without, sure, but it removes the possibility to make more complete/complex and long sets. My guess here is that they have been trying for a while but lack good developers. The issues with disk mounting in 2.2, the performance drops due to bad UI optimization on the visual remake of FXs or the massive user password on their website when 2.4 dropped are mistakes that unexperienced/plain bad developers would make, my colleagues and I often joke about it (I work in IT).

  • Countless UI/UX issues. Making an exhaustive list would be impossible but the ones that annoy me are the inability to reorder tracks or programs, the lost space in pretty much every screen, the bad defaults everywhere (samples at max volume when loaded for example), … I could go on for a long time but having a look at the get satisfaction website and seeing the only one guy from Akai answering a year later makes me chuckle. HIs answers are usually something like “There are methods that work around this that have been mentioned so at this time, I would advise using one of these methods to [basic functionality]. I do think that this function would be useful to the MPC hardware’s workflow so I will submit this as a feature request for you to the Akai team”.

I hope I’m wrong about Akai’s inability to fix what they aimed for and failed. But I have even more hope that some other company will understand the appeal of such a product well done, and implement it better. I’ll see what Superbooth has in store this year, but I’m definitely considering a 2nd OT to rock double OT instead of the MPC…


#5174

Have an opportunity to grab a live cheap. I’m like a few others above and looking for one device amongst my guitar and DN.

I love the AR but built in limited space is not for me, found that out quick. What I do love with the AR and DN though is I work well with pattern based machines. Will this be an issue with the MPC?


#5175

MPC can be as pattern-based as you want it to be.


#5176

Not a single thing in my wish list has been added so opinion is the same. Needs P-locks… needs multitimbral midi in…


#5177

Will I be able to add effects per note, say delay on the third snare hit in a pattern. Sorry if this is a dumb question.