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Okay cool. !!! That’s what I was hoping! Whew.

I think they intentionally skipped showing all the secret sauce.

And I think that’s a lot of Mike Dean’s approach with so many fat synth sounds. I can see him layering hp and lp filter envelopes, so each synth has its time to go full fat, and when it decays and releases, another synth can have the spectrum to establish itself.

I really appreciate you!

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My Sub Phatty was actually my favorite synth out of all my post-Bob era Moogs. There was something about the gain staging that made it sound so huge. I regret selling it. I haven’t tried the Grandmother/Matriarch combo yet. I was in a Moog funk for a while with all the bad press. Need to get over it, but it’s always felt like Moog=Mono and Sequential/Obi=Poly in the analog domain.

so I asked that same question about the flat EQ’s on the YT vid. And Reverb replied!

“It was just a quick way to add gain to the Synthex channel (each one was a few extra dB across a flat frequency spectrum). Not sure why, but the synth was just quieter than the others.” - Reverb YT

So it adds gain? and instead of using a gain plugin, maybe having the EQ’s, set you up to get the frequencies managed down the line.

Not sure… Im not going to use Ableton until 12 drops… but if you use the stock logic EQ, I dont think it adds gain… maybe the Ableton one does? I’ll test all this once I get some free time

edit… hmmm… the more I think about this… the more I am not sure… So the Syntex was too low? Thats not an EQ problem, but a gain problem… but Mike said something like “beef” it up, or give it more juice… so Im thinking it is a EQ thing, and the person running the YT comments might be mistaken? ARGGH! I must know the TRUTH!

EDIT EDIT: So I googled… and there are many reddits about the gain of the EQ’s in Ableton… and it falls into two camps… its not a phase linear EQ, so some freq’s get shifted when applying a cutoff… or Ableton adds a softclipper to the signal or colors it in some way to manage any clipping that may occur. STILL NOT CERTAIN, but enough to know that it is a thing.

Funny: the Sub left me on my hunger as far as the gain management. I found it too agressive all the time with respect to the Little Phatty. I later read that the key was to let the oscillator levels lower than noon in the mixer… but it was too late to try it then.

If you liked the Sub, I suggest you have a close look to the Subsequent 25. Less than a stripped down Subsequent 37, it should be regarded as an augmented Sub Phatty. The feedback, duo-phony capability and mixer gain stage are what changed from the said Sub Phatty; they were upgraded according to what was developed for the Subsequent 37.

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Any news?

Sorry for the off-topic, but the Micro is a surpriingly versatile, playable and overall nice sounding synth. It tends to be neglected among its 2- or 3- oscillator siblings, but I love it for its playability and sounds.

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It was definitely a lot of fun, and has such a nice, but raw tone. Had to repair some of the j-wires for the keys, but it was pretty solid too!

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There is an output gain adjustment on EQ8. It looks like he already had one EQ8 on that track with the output gain maxed out, so he just duplicates the EQ a couple times to get even more gain boost.

Since you plan on getting Ableton in the future, another option to boost the gain is with Ableton’s Utility module, which allows up to 35db of gain boost. When I used to record DT’s tracks through Overbridge, which were a bit on the quiet side, I had a template set up with a Utility module on each track to boost the gain.

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See… cool discussion…

So there is make up gain on that EQ. Cool.

I mainly use logic, and it has a similar utility for gain… I already got Ableton 11 with the free upgrade to 12 during Black Friday, but I only got it for the new midi transform tools, and to follow along with Youtube producers…

if it goes a certain way though, I can see me transitioning to Ableton for Producing, and Logic for recording. Or whatever… I may just go back and forth because, why not.

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how it’s still the Digitakt branding :smile:

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Talk to Moog, I’m just messenger :sweat_smile:

Will this make all the other Moogs obsolete?

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No, just irrelevant. :smiley:

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it will make them irreverent.

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Are you sure? A comment like that is irrevocable.

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Irregardless!

:crazy_face:

Hehehe!!! I’ve gone mad.

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Irrigation!

Ha.

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That’s highly irregular!

:face_with_monocle:

The new 8 Voice Moog Jo Mamma’s Irregular Mirror.

I was not wanting to before but your Scene Demo thread/posts are inspiring me to combine the Matriarch with M8. M8 for song mode sequencing, hands-on operations on Matriarch

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