Monomachine Custom OSes

jonah · 2014-04-09T00:02:50.000Z

i’d probably pay for a sonic charge (makers of permut8, micro tonic, synthplant, bit speak, cyclone) firmware. they even have experience doing hardware dsp stuff. i just think they have a unique take, that’s similar to elektron, but still very different. i’d be curious to see what they could pull off with the monomachine.

Automux · 2014-04-19T20:08:32.000Z

Well since I don’t have a MnM yet I would like to see a MKIII hardware refresh

(Be gentile)

ignatius · 2014-04-19T22:19:08.000Z

""Automux"":

Well since I don’t have a MnM yet I would like to see a MKIII hardware refresh

(Be gentile)

me too. though i owned a MKI for a long time. i think a MKIII w/seqeuncer like the OT and more synth types and FX would be a winner. more FM, full featured wavetable, percussion modeler for everything from kicks to hats in one model, phase mod oscillator, poly synth model, plucked synth/wave guide model, delay designer, comb filter etc.

would be a winner for me. one output per track.

Prints · 2014-04-19T23:37:00.000Z

""ignatius"":

[quote=“Automux”]Well since I don’t have a MnM yet I would like to see a MKIII hardware refresh

(Be gentile)

me too. though i owned a MKI for a long time. i think a MKIII w/seqeuncer like the OT and more synth types and FX would be a winner. more FM, full featured wavetable, percussion modeler for everything from kicks to hats in one model, phase mod oscillator, poly synth model, plucked synth/wave guide model, delay designer, comb filter etc.

would be a winner for me. one output per track. [/quote]
And they could even integrate analog filters (along with digital)

Prints · 2014-04-19T23:37:43.000Z

Razor in a box (Elektron style) would be sweet. Elektron have yet to dabble in additive synthesis.

ignatius · 2014-04-20T00:00:02.000Z

""Prints"":

[quote=“ignatius”][quote=“Automux”]Well since I don’t have a MnM yet I would like to see a MKIII hardware refresh

(Be gentile)

me too. though i owned a MKI for a long time. i think a MKIII w/seqeuncer like the OT and more synth types and FX would be a winner. more FM, full featured wavetable, percussion modeler for everything from kicks to hats in one model, phase mod oscillator, poly synth model, plucked synth/wave guide model, delay designer, comb filter etc.

would be a winner for me. one output per track. [/quote]
And they could even integrate analog filters (along with digital) ;)[/quote]
but i don’t really care so much if the filters were analog. the MnM filters aren’t bad. so many tonal shaping options and envelope shaping options + p locks makes for an expressive instrument

Daisuk · 2014-04-21T00:02:02.000Z

I’ve been wanting and “predicting” this for some time now - surely someone will come up with a sort of software modular hardware synth where users can program their own modules to share online and such (kind of like they do with the Monome). It’s a gap in the whole synth-nerd business just waiting to be filled.

Would’ve loved it as an alternative on the Mono.

PongFu · 2014-04-21T04:03:53.000Z

Bring the crystal math.

LMLMLM · 2014-04-21T16:43:17.000Z

""FreeFall"":

It would be AMAZING if you could swap out synth machines, and if there was an ever growing collection of new machines being made available. Basically taking the VST concept to the Elektrons.

Sort of what Roland is doing with the Aira System-1 and TR-8

FreeFall · 2014-04-21T16:48:15.000Z

""LMLMLM"":

[quote=“FreeFall”]It would be AMAZING if you could swap out synth machines, and if there was an ever growing collection of new machines being made available. Basically taking the VST concept to the Elektrons.

Sort of what Roland is doing with the Aira System-1 and TR-8[/quote]
Actually, not at all what Roland is doing. I don’t see how you made that connection…

the_dreammer · 2014-04-21T17:01:56.000Z

""FreeFall":

Actually, not at all what Roland is doing. I don’t see how you made that connection…

Because roland says: that system-1 will get extra updates, where you can program your system-1 to be “something new”…
as in… every now and then, they give a new bit of firmware to upload to your machine… not just a bunch of patches, but more like a plugin for your machine… They even said something like that about tr-8 … more updates with new “machine-modeling”.

I dont see a big difrence between the two ideas, except terminology…

Idea1: Lets strip our machine, so we got room left, to only upload the machines we need. so we get custom monomachine.

idea2: Lets build a machine, with room to spare… so we can make difrent modules users can mix and match, so they end up with a custom roland machine…

plusn · 2014-04-22T16:00:02.000Z

""natrixgli"":

Oh yeah. I would trade VO+ synthesis for the Analog Four’s reverb.

The VO synth is so …i mean SO effing great! I rather not have the A4 reverb…

Signifier · 2014-04-22T22:12:10.000Z

Problem with an update is that the MnM is old technology, and it is likely that there are only a limited number of people at Elektron with the skilz and inclination in 2014 to tackle it. Chips and processor tech have moved on and Elektron is now no doubt using some newer tech and programming language etc.

Have to say that I’d love to see a new digital synth from Elektron with analogue filters!

biologik · 2014-04-22T23:03:34.000Z

""Signifier"":

Have to say that I’d love to see a new digital synth from Elektron with analogue filters!

Wanna buy my Korg DW8000?

ignatius · 2014-04-23T02:02:48.000Z

""Signifier"":

Problem with an update is that the MnM is old technology, and it is likely that there are only a limited number of people at Elektron with the skilz and inclination in 2014 to tackle it. Chips and processor tech have moved on and Elektron is now no doubt using some newer tech and programming language etc.

Have to say that I’d love to see a new digital synth from Elektron with analogue filters!

couldn’t care less about analog filters or analog anything really… would love a MnM MKIII w/more synth types and the current elektron (OT) sequencer

guga · 2014-04-23T09:37:05.000Z

i would like to see the following on a new version of the MnM:

micro timing
samples playback (well,not sure whether this could fit in but…) - even if it was like 5secs of playback i would be happy
p-locks on arp
just to mention a few,other extra features would be a bonus
thing is with the MnM,as already mentioned,it is based on ‘old’ technology so probably if these and other features should be implemented, it’ll probably be on an newer hardware version. i’m not sure how much free space there’s in the current MnM for new features to beimplemented…hopefully there’re still a few free programmable bytes left

Signifier · 2014-04-24T20:28:19.000Z

""biologik"":

[quote=“Signifier”]Have to say that I’d love to see a new digital synth from Elektron with analogue filters!

Wanna buy my Korg DW8000? :P[/quote]
Thanks, but got one already!
The digital filters on the Elektrons kind of let them down a bit sometimes… With current processor tech and Elektron’s ana filters, the next-gen Monomachine should be a Polymachine!

BoomTish · 2014-05-06T01:31:33.000Z

Looks like we have to wait for Korg to reissue the Mono was a DIY kit. Could be new features then. I don’t think Elektron have any intentions on working on the MD or MnM platforms now.

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tr909 · 2014-05-06T03:33:53.000Z

A more feasible job would be to find where in the current OS the waveform data resides. Then mod the official OS’s to have custom waveform data. Could be done manually the first times but eventually a tool could be wrote to allow any user to build a custom OS file.

I doubt the wav’s are stored on a ROM. Surely they are part of the OS and stored with the normal storage. Your thoughts?

jonah · 2014-05-07T02:08:35.000Z

""tr909"":

A more feasible job would be to find where in the current OS the waveform data resides. Then mod the official OS’s to have custom waveform data. Could be done manually the first times but eventually a tool could be wrote to allow any user to build a custom OS file.

I doubt the wav’s are stored on a ROM. Surely they are part of the OS and stored with the normal storage. Your thoughts?

i’ve said it before, but i’m surprised there’s no way to make new digiwaves internally. i mean, they’re single cycles. being able to draw them or even better interpolate between 2 and fill in the gaps would open a lot of sonic options.

i’d gladly give up the ability to send them over sysex or half of the global slots if that’s what it took. i don’t know about anyone else, but it’s hard to get motived to stop using the monomachine, think up waves to make, make them, transfer them and then go back to using the monomachine so it doesn’t get done that often. (i’ll just use something that natively supports that)

with the release of the rytm they could make a new digipro beat box with samples of the rytm!

tbh, i’m not sure why beatboxes aren’t something we can make and load ourselves, but yeah an update on that would be cool.

personally, the digipro beat box is my least used for percussion, more for turning into synth sounds because it’s so recognizable.