Not having the physical components necessary to live sample would be a problem for Elektron enabling sampling on the M:S.
Doesn’t even have a jack for audio in.
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It has some version of USB audio, so it’s possible in some context, if the firmware got a major rework (I’d assume). I can’t imagine it’s very close at hand though, because it’s a lot of work and, unfortunately, the models seem to be virtually disowned.
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All this assumes that the chipset supports it (not necessarily so) and that the platform supports the level of processing required (also unknown.) Between the both is notably why Overbridge is not supportable on these models.
But yes, at very least a serious refactoring of the OS on a specific older platform of hardware that’s not going to see any additional Model devices since there is no longer a shared codebase*
Turtles, all the way down!
*not to say there couldn’t be a newer Model line down the road, but the conditions that made sense for the first lineup are not present.
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Would be nice to be able to usb connect a zoom recorder with microphone. But the slow sample transfer workflow and separation of sample recording and editing and transfer in Audacity is ok, Slow Sample
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Yeah USB is the only way but it would be nice still. I use the MS as a quick audio interface with my laptop monitoring with headphones and it frustrates me that there is no way to record the usb audio into the unit. It seems like such a blatant omission
I mean there is already a digital to analog conversion stage going on from the usb to allow monitoring of audio input , would it really require so much extra processing power to capture the audio into memory? I’m no engineer but i doubt Elektron would have maxed out their processing power to leave no room for extra features in the future… especially the ability to record from usb
Again I’m not an engineer so I have no idea of the resources required to implement a way of recording audio
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Development likelihood aside, for fun I’m going back over as much design as I can parse remotely since it’s been ages since I’ve looked into either my Digitakt or Model:Samples.
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The MIDI IN is a TRS jack …
A TRS midi isn’t any different than DIN midi (same number of pins are used in din midi to match into ring tip sleeve) you cant suddenly use it as an audio input unless someone put in lots of components and design work beforehand to allow for that dual functionality.
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I know, I was half joking.
It’d be interesting to see what kind of audio data if any could result from trying to sample from it.
Some sort of official time stretch update/patch(?) would be nice, even though there is a time stretch hack. And a physical new pad update, refurb kit, in nice colors. Or maybe Model:Samples is the elektron underdog, just need to collect more ways to work with this white box from the forum
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I believe the Model line are underdogs that are only 1 or 2 features away from being legendary boxes.
I don’t care for insert fx or master compression, mastering is better done with plugins. These days I’ve realized that you can get a lot done with 1 good reverb and delay line which Elektron have already provided. The clever implementation of the low/highpass filter on one knob is a masterstroke of design optimization and takes care of filtering & EQ. The 2 seperate ways to control volume is another clever idea enabling distortion while being able to tame the gain of the distortion via the track volume.
There is a lot of thought gone into the design of the Model range to maximize features with the limited knob real estate. However many more features could have been implemented by holding FUNC while turning a knob in the synth section. Elektron did this in the FX section and could easily have done it with the main synth knobs. Its curious that they didn’t. Perhaps they wanted to go for a clean look which I understand, but the way they did it in the fx section in a lighter tone is quite nice and for me personally does not detract from the aesthetics.
The ability to sample via usb and 1 more LFO would make the M:S legendary. I can get by without sustain using p-locks but a simple attack as a shift command on the decay knob would also be great. I don’t want to sacrifice my LFO as an attack. But… if I can’t have an attack I would take the first 2 anyday
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The plan was for 1 knob per function and minimal exceptions to this.
They could have, but it was a specific design decision for the Models to not overload and keep the workflow quick.
Everyone has their particular preferences that would make any device “perfect”!
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I was curious about this; I guess I hadn’t tried it before. I found an easier and somewhat more precise way to do this without using the LFO:
- Make sure your sample’s start time is 0.
- Turn off velocity to volume, and set velocity mod to start time. You’ll need to adjust this a bit, but it should be positive. I think I had it around +30. EDIT: Use +63.
- Put down one trig where you want the timestretch to start. Set it to retrigger with a fast rate, maybe 1/60 or 1/48. Set the velocity fade to max (+127 I think) and make sure the steps of the retrigger are long enough to hear the effect.
One cool thing about this is you can mess with the retrig rate and length fairly easily and the retrig’s velocity scales the timestretch for you.
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That’s very clever 
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Thank you!, this sound interesting. Nice M:S user group update. I’m not shure I understand which velocity mod is but I will try this, and free up the LFO…
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Excellent!
What sort of sample are you using? Approximately how long?
I’m using a sample of the narrator saying “OK Winspector” from about 5 seconds in this video, which is probably just over a second long.
I think this would work great with 1-2 second breaks. I’m thinking I’ll put an Amen on there later, surprised I haven’t already.
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Nice. I tried it with a ukulele plucked note and wasn’t really sure what I expected to hear. Maybe a longer sample would be a better choice.
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