I have same question but other thread hasnât really given many suggestions.
I want a mixer for techno/house thats not entirely transparent (not noisy but something added thats not just daw - ie potential for overdriving channels either subtley or not.
Besides the classic models from 90s (ie the old mackies etc. Im wondering if any of the new or recent budget models from Mackie, Soundcraft, A&H, Behringer are worthwhile from anyoneâs experience?
My only experience is a Mackie Onyx 12 which was ok but the pres/gain was not very interesting for overdriving.
In my experience the modern budget mixers donât have that funky 90âs overdriven sound to them. They are often very sterile sounding and not really built for dirtying up clean sounds, more like preserving that cleanliness.
Get a proper old school mixer. They donât usually cost much.
funny, I used a behringer 1622 mixer for a while, but due its size went to the Tascam lm8-st (and lost the mute buttons) then went to the Motu 828mkIII âŚ
Note that you would need at least a 2 bus mixer, one bus for recording and one for monitoring, and if you are going to be recording, you will lose sound quality along the way vs using the ultralite directly.
funny, I used a behringer 1622 mixer for a while, but due its size went to the Tascam lm8-st (and lost the mute buttons) then went to the Motu 828mkIII âŚ
Note that you would need at least a 2 bus mixer, one bus for recording and one for monitoring, and if you are going to be recording, you will lose sound quality along the way vs using the ultralite directly.
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Cheers man, whay would I be losing sound quality? Everything will be sorted anyway I think when this Overbridge update comes in. Plus looking at changing the Moog for the OP-1
I had a Allen Heath Zed FX 12 for a while.
I loved it.
In comparison to other mixers in the same price range, it blew them away sound wise and especially build wise.
I also had an Ashly MM508 for a while, really nice sounding.
I particularly like Allen & Heath stuff - if youâre patient you can fin an older MixWizard on eBay for a good price. Old Mackies like a CR1604 are available very cheap and they can do great overdrive or aggressive EQ but if theyâre in good condition they also sound nice for clean stuff. Equally importantly theyâre well laid out and flexible in configuration.
funny, I used a behringer 1622 mixer for a while, but due its size went to the Tascam lm8-st (and lost the mute buttons) then went to the Motu 828mkIII âŚ
Note that you would need at least a 2 bus mixer, one bus for recording and one for monitoring, and if you are going to be recording, you will lose sound quality along the way vs using the ultralite directly.
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Cheers man, whay would I be losing sound quality? Everything will be sorted anyway I think when this Overbridge update comes in. Plus looking at changing the Moog for the OP-1[/quote]
HI,
Any time you run a signal through something you lose fidelity⌠typically add noise and coloration and lose dynamic range and transient attack⌠so if you record and instrument direct into the ultralite, it will always be more faithful to the original than going through a mixerâŚwhich is why some mixers cost more than others⌠they âsound betterâ which just means âthey add less bad stuffâ to the original
funny, I used a behringer 1622 mixer for a while, but due its size went to the Tascam lm8-st (and lost the mute buttons) then went to the Motu 828mkIII âŚ
Note that you would need at least a 2 bus mixer, one bus for recording and one for monitoring, and if you are going to be recording, you will lose sound quality along the way vs using the ultralite directly.
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Cheers man, whay would I be losing sound quality? Everything will be sorted anyway I think when this Overbridge update comes in. Plus looking at changing the Moog for the OP-1[/quote]
HI,
Any time you run a signal through something you lose fidelity⌠typically add noise and coloration and lose dynamic range and transient attack⌠so if you record and instrument direct into the ultralite, it will always be more faithful to the original than going through a mixerâŚwhich is why some mixers cost more than others⌠they âsound betterâ which just means âthey add less bad stuffâ to the original
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Thanks for the explanation man, I hadnât really thought of that to be honest. Defo something to consider. But I think with Overbridge, I can free up inputs on the Ultralite. Could also get another Ultralite too I guess. and link them.
I grabbed a good condition one (turned out to be mint which seems to be unusual) and bamm, instant amazing distortion - wow!. The real deal, I know why people talk about old Mackies for distortion now.
Also as mentioned above, it can go very clean as well if you donât drive it or use the eq. Very impressed/happy.
Ive heard the more recent Mackie 1604 VLz3 is also quite good. There is a famous dubstep producer who just did a Future Music âwhy i love myâŚâ video series which is called âwhy I love my Mackie 1604â⌠Check it out.
Its perfectly small for my home studio. The Alt3/4 is perfect for separate routing into the OT. However, I feel I need an additional aux send. 1 for reverb and one for delay. Currently I run them in series.
Soundwise I canât complain. No noise and its really nicely build. Also the amplifiers are quite oke, even for guitar or mic recording.
heck of a downgrade ;)[/quote]
haha you think so? Iâve never actually used an OP 1 but Im finding I use the Moog less and less these days.[/quote]
as far as just comparing the synths, no doubt about it
however, we are talking musical instruments hereâŚso it doesnât mean that selling a moog to get an op1 is a bad moveâŚit may be a great move for someone
heck of a downgrade ;)[/quote]
haha you think so? Iâve never actually used an OP 1 but Im finding I use the Moog less and less these days.[/quote]
as far as just comparing the synths, no doubt about it
however, we are talking musical instruments hereâŚso it doesnât mean that selling a moog to get an op1 is a bad moveâŚit may be a great move for someone
not to mention they are a little different :)[/quote]
I know what you are saying, maybe sound wise then Moog all day but I can see myself doing a lot more with the OP 1. The Moog does on thing at a time whereas a lot more things can get going with the OP 1. But ye, I havenât even used one so who knows haha I just know when in my room a synth isnât getting used, time for something else