Miserable git's general and non-specific (but very inclusive) whingeing thread - If you've got thoughts about stuff, I'm your guy (Part 1)

Two whinges:

1: give me back my goddamn mouse buttons on laptops. It’s so much easier on my arms than clicking the trackpad in.

2: had to take a mandatory security refresher training, one of the questions only had two possible answers to select and they were both the same incorrect answer. One of them happened to have a typo. I chose that one. I got the question right but what the hell. I’m sure someone just copy pasted the wrong thing into the field when designing the quiz but holy shit that’s such an easy thing to catch.

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When i see these ‘Ghost’ towns (abandoned towns in the US) on youtube due to many reasons i think what a great place to live. I know it sounds weird, but as someone from an overpopulated Midlands town in the UK i think i could really enjoy living there. And the property is so cheap.

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Even for me, I accidentally right click all over the place every single day on my work laptop. Please bring back buttons!

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I think it’s easy to romanticize something like this, but there’s a reason people don’t live there. Mainly, nowhere to work, nothing to do, and sometimes nowhere to get groceries etc. I know people in rural areas that have to drive over an hour to get groceries, and then they’re eating all frozen, boxes, and canned shit because they can’t get fresh food that lasts long enough between trips.

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I just learned that not being able to stand up from the floor without using your hands reduces your lifetime expectancy by around 6 years. I can barely do it without support. I feel old now. But I’m trying hard to improve.

(Don’t ask me why 6 years more would be good, please.)

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so. if you avoid sitting on the floor will you save even more time ?

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Maybe. But you’ll be less grounded for sure.

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I actually practice this as part of my home workouts, after you can get there without using your hands the next step is no knees or elbows. I can only do it with one of my legs but it’s a start. You’ll get there quick if you do it a few times a day. If you work from home floor desks help a lot.

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What bugs me most is, that I do have almost daily exercise routines. But then it comes to your mind to try something so very simple. The most trivial thing on earth it shall be and then… you fail and your ego is scattered to pieces.

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I was speaking to a young guy at the gym recently. He told me that studies have shown that people with better grip strength tend to be stronger. So, he’s really working on his grip strength.

Can anyone see the problem with this kind of reasoning? :thinking:

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Usual disclaimer - I’m not a trainer or physical therapist but I’ve spent an ungodly amount of time researching these things for decades.

I would say, as people age - late 30’s, 40’s, 50’s, it’s very important to practice multiple times per day:

  • “Asian” squat
  • Getting down on the floor and up again, without hand assistance
  • Anything that assists in hip mobility and strength
  • Thoracic spine mobility and strength

I would like to get rid of all my furniture and sit and squat on the floor but my wife would probably kill me.

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I’ve seen studies that say higher grip strength might indicate higher levels of longevity. Maybe that’s what he meant?

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Thanks for that!
I’m all good except getting up from the floor is not as fluid as I had expected. I run 3-5 times/week for an hour and do a lot of functional fitness/stretching. I am pretty active and I do in fact sit on the floor a lot. Especially when making music. Just whingeing around a bit for the purpose of this thread.

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All the muscles in your body are connected. The analogy regarding grip strength is to say that grip is a measure of how all of your muscles work together. If grip were just the strength of the hand or arm then it would be a little nonsensical and it does sound silly, but I think that anecdotally when a person says something like stronger grip reflects greater strength it’s mostly that someone didn’t understand or doesn’t know how to explain that strength of grip reflects the strength of the skeletal musculature as a whole system rather than just the function of one muscle group.

Interpret it how you will because I have no idea what the person was specifically trying to say but there’s some logic to it.

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Yeah I’ve been trying to sell my wife on 100 percent floor furniture for years but she’s too weak to live my primal raw high testosterone lifestyle.

(Not a joke unlike the above, the book muscles and meridians is a good read)

It might correlate with greater longevity. But correlation doesn’t imply causation. Training grip strength alone isn’t going to make anyone stronger in any real sense, so it’s pretty unlikely to increase longevity in itself. Unless you’re really into free climbing or something…

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If you think of it like a slingshot, there is a rubber band attached to a fork with a sling in the middle. If the sling is strong, the rubber band can still be weak and snap. If the rubber band is strong, the fork can still be weak and crack. If the fork and the rubber band are strong and the sling is weak, then it may snap right in the middle when pulled to tension.

All of these parts on their own are only put to test as a system if pulled to tension in unison. Grip is essentially the same idea as the slingshot being pulled to tension. Everything connected to your grip from your arm to your shoulder into your neck and back down into your pelvis and core and probably even your legs are part of the anchor securing your grip.

If any one part of that system is a bit off, then grip suffers.

I probably don’t have the scientific base to explain it in any kind of technical way but I’ve seen and felt it proved true many times, so it’s just if the person was unable to express this concept then there may be some truth to it, but it’s also possible they were just repeating anecdotal things that they didn’t understand or talking about something unrelated.

When you say that stronger grip means greater strength it absolutely does sound like an oxymoron without any further explanation.

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Allow me to nerd out a second.

I would say increasing grip strength, or strength endurance, can lead to overall strength gains. If you can hold onto a bar longer, or pull a heavier load, a kettlebell longer, or a pull-up bar longer, you can increase weight, reps, etc. Which, in certain combos, could lead to increased overall strength.

There is a reason pro strongmen have all these grip strength gadgets. It just seems to work in the real world. (https://www.ironmind.com)

Wait, okay, I’m an idiot. I just reread the quote. Yes, training grip strength alone won’t make anyone stronger. I agree. I guess what I’m really saying is training grip strength can be a fantastic way to increase strength when used as a launching pad to lift heavier weight in the traditional lifts where it’s required - deadlifts, snatch, cleans, pull-ups, carries, etc.

(I guess a lot of people, including myself, use wrist straps too when larger muscle groups outpace grip strength. But I should do more to increase natural unassisted grip strength.)

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I think these studies simply show that stronger people tend to have stronger grips. Probably from all the things they’ve been lifting! But the reverse isn’t necessarily true.

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Yeah, haha, I’m now picturing a bunch of “Popeye forearm” looking people living long into old age but they can’t get up off the floor or lift their grandchildren. But they have a hell of a handshake!

Studies are weird. So easy to misinterpret results. I say if anyone is interested just look at people who do this strength building shiznit on the daily and take some info and leave some info, whatever works.

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