CC120 (DT) is ALL SOUNDS OFF. It is different, but I can’t elaborate for now.
That CC120 thing might have change over the years. At some point Elektron updated the way the Stop button works on the DT to prevent freezing when using MIDI loopback. Maybe it doesn’t use MIDI CC anymore? This is all conjectures tho!
@JohnnyLucid You mentioned you tried with the DT as the master but was the Syntakt audio going through the DT? Because it feels like double-tapping the Stop button on the DT would also stop the incoming sound.
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@AldoVino I just tried routing the audio and MIDI from the ST to the DT and I am getting the same results. Thanks for the suggestion.
That’s what I was thinking about too (no CC120 send). I wonder why they used CC120 instead of CC123, which doesn’t seem to cause freeze with midi loopback btw. Anyway it concerns Digis but I’m curious about it…
No very funny but I’ll try to check that tonight and compare with OT…
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Checked with USB midi and Miditest monitor (w10)
DT sends CC120 ( B0 78 00, Hexadecimal) with double stop, and it also send four “empty” sysex. Don’t know what it is.
DT single stop, same as ST :
ST double stop doesn’t send CC120, also sends four F0 F7, twice. Seems like there is nothing specific sent with double stop, so behavior is different from DT
Don’t know how ST is supposed to behave with CC 120 receive…
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Thanks for the help. I just tried the built in MIDI monitor in Ableton and Max4Live and I didn’t get near the detail you are getting. I just get the patten PGM # from both DT and ST.
This is what I get from Studio One’s MIDI Monitor with a double tap on stop from both the ST and DT.
This is more inline with what you found
I really appreciate the suggestions and help.
Thanks in advance for any and all assistance.
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UPDATE: This solution has mysteriously stopped working for me, but it’s unclear why. Take all this with a grain of salt.
For anyone reading this in 2025… while I can’t speak to the OG Digis, here is the TL;DR answer for Digitone II and Digtakt II: The receiving box must have MIDI Channel 16 enabled for full stop (all notes off) to work.
DETAILS:
From all the tests I conducted, this applies whichever direction you go (DT2 sending MIDI to DN2, or DN2 sending MIDI to DT2). And first, make sure your receiving box is actually getting messages from the sender (i.e. basic MIDI connection is working).
Sending box setup – in MIDI Config → Sync - must send clock and transport.
- Other settings have no effect, set as needed.
Receiving (slave) box setup – all of these are submenus of Setup → MIDI Config…
- Sync - must receive clock and transport
- Port Config - must be receiving CC/NRPN
- MIDI Channels - at least one track must be using MIDI Channel 16. It does not matter whether the track is actually a MIDI track; you don’t give up any tracks for this to work.
Things that don’t matter include:
- encoder, trig key, or mute destination on the sender
- whether the receiver is receiving note information (the full stop/all notes off is a CC or NRPN message); or
- whether you use MIDI Channel 16 for content like sequencing an outboard synth
- whether the sending unit is using MIDI Channel 16, or even has it enabled
I only have a handful of HW synths but if I have other boxes downstream of the receiving Digi on the MIDI chain that respect All Notes Off, they’ll do so.
Hope this helps someone else in the future.
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