MC 707 / 101 : Roland Grooveboxes

Hi Everyone,

Have been playing with the mc-707 for a while now. It really opened new ways of working for me.

Do you guys also experience that the knobs above the faders have a certain point where all of a sudden they increase (or decrease) drastically? Especially notice it when I link them to decay and sustain. Is there any way to change the slope or anything? using the off set setting did not help with me. It makes the onboard controls sometimes almost not usable. which is said because that’s the amazing thing about the mc-707.

curious if you guys also experience this?!

My partner has one here that, sadly, she’s only used for an hour over the last year. :expressionless: I’ve noodled with it a bit for a few hours but haven’t gone so far as to map parameters to the FX knob.

I wonder if those knobs have some sort of acceleration logic baked in. So that the faster you turn the more it increases or decreases the rate of change. This would work well for maybe wet/dry or other effects amounts but maybe not so great for adjusting envelope slopes.

I’d say you could reach out to Roland tech support but that would be a fruitless endeavor I’m sure. Maybe reach out on social media if you can find the accounts for the product specialists.

They are usually “offset” values. So it decreases or increases from the set value in the patch settings. So when the decay is very long already, increasing it will only have an effect for the first amount of travel, until it reaches its max: then it will not have any effect anymore. That might be what you mean.

For example: if you want it to sweep the cutoff from 0 to 100%, you will first have to set the cutoff value in the tone edit menu to 50% (512). Then tweaking the assigned knob will sweep through the full spectrum.

I am aware of this and this is not what I mean. I think at least.

I mean that when you are using the knobs often it seems like the steps it takes are very small. But then all of a sudden (often around the middle area) it seems like it increases a lot. Although if I look at the screen I only increase it 2 values.

Especially notice this with the filter and decay.

I haven’t noticed this especially on the 707, but I think some of its filter models can react quite sharply in certain setups. A way to confirm this would be to change the value by some other means - say with a very subtle LFO, or incrementally in the editor rather than using the mixer section knobs. If a change of two or three values has the same drastic effect there, then the issue is with the engine and not the knobs. I think if you’re seeing the value only increase by a couple of points as you tweak, it’s most likely down to the engine configuration in the current patch (in which case I’d also test it with a default patch to see if it’s the result of a particular setup or a global issue).

On the MC-101 - do user samples not have envelopes?

For the life of me - decay/release offset plus NO-SUS and SUS, I can’t get a hi hat envelope to close down - it’s either sustained for he length of the step or rings out (with both offsets at -100)

Thanks for any help with this one.

I’m not sure if this question was answered before, but would the MC-101 be a good preset machine? I basically want a simple box that I can hook up to my MPC via MIDI to have a collection of bread-and-butter-sounds, Roland JX/JV-type.
The sound-design aspect should be secondary, I have a variety of synths that I can use to create my own sounds, but sometimes I just need a few good classic presets :slight_smile:

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I liked it for that but sold it anyway.

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I am thinking about the same thing. And I guess it is perfect for that. 4 MIDI Channels, many presets, you can save your favorite setup as a pattern… One thing that should be cool is to have all four tracks on the same MIDI channel and then use the faders to mix a nice pad with 4 different layers… :slight_smile:

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I’ve been thinking the same. Think it would pair really well with the Polyend Tracker.

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Looks like I’m not the only one who had that thought :smiley:
I will probably give it a try, right now they are quite cheap, around 370€ in my area.
Another option for me would be to try to use an iPad as a kind of AU/MIDI-player.

I had the mc101 and I am using an ipad now. Ipad possibilities are a million times greater than mc101. Not exaggerating

Really ? With or without VAT ? UK price translates into a lot more euros than that right now.

If you have an MPC, you can auto sample your favorite VA synths. One of the best and not talked about features of the MPC in my opinion. :v:t4:

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Ipad possibilities are a million times greater than any elektron or mpc etc as well :slight_smile:

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Sorry, I forgot to say they are second-hand with that price :smiley:

@djadonis206
Tbh I should give the Auto-Sampler another try, I just used it once and the results were a bit “stiff” :smiley:

@CEKBEHTC
What apps are you using instead of the MC 101 exactly?

I think it’d be good for that. Granted I have the advantage of buying mine while the “free Roland Cloud for a year” deal was still under effect. Even when setting the search filter in Roland Cloud to just MC-101/707 compatible sound packs, a fairly long list of sound packs still comes up.

There are also some excellent VA sounds.

And there’s the 303 soundpack. https://payhip.com/b/J1zr

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with the exception of anything you’d like to do like any Elektron device or Mpc I concur :grimacing:
but without a doubt an iPad is definitely better at being an iPad than any electron device

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Drambo is essentially a modular in an Elektron “case”.

yesss, but feels like an iPad in the way that bm3 doesn’t feel like an mpc to me, even the mpc app feels quite different imho… I just got drambo recently though so maybe one day it will seem like it’s as good… I think I would describe the iPad experience as infinitely creative more so than infinitely better… unifono, didn’t say that but those are just my thoughts.

sometimes I think apple is afraid to allow the iPad to be all that it could be, or even 50% of all that it could be :unamused:

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