MC 707 / 101 : Roland Grooveboxes

sounds great!
I will do one as well once I own a system 100m :slightly_smiling_face:

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You’d love it, if you are serious I can put you in touch with the guy I got mine from, he kind of specialises in them.
Alex Ball asked me for a tutorial which was quite nice :slight_smile: Of course I obliged.

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I wish I was serious.
Looks like a holy grail.
I could go for it but I had to sell my other stuff because of bad conscience :upside_down_face:
Although, system 100m and an Octatrack sounds like everything you‘d ever need.

Looking at the behringer one from time to time but I try to stay away from their stuff

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@darenager don’t you have a sound pack to work on!?

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@papertiger Currently knee deep in envelope timings and filter response curves as we speak :joy:

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Has anyone done a comparison/contrast thread like this, only about Roland sequencing vs Elektron sequencing ?

I appreciate the info is probably buried here, but it’s a long thread … I wonder if I should start a new one, specifically about the sequencing aspect ?

(Context: Only got my M:C 4/5 days ago, but considering adding either an M:S or and MC-101 in a month or two)

I’m not saying I’m giving this another go. But I’m looking at you @papertiger and @darenager and @Unifono just in case I spent an hour or so updating this to 1.6, doing a few tutorials and realising that scenes, sh-101 sequencing and some other stuff is pretty cool. And wondering about user samples, where I read that subfolders don’t work and a limit of 200 samples on the card is the cut.

Doing some googling, reading some manuals, I can’t find anything that contradicts this.

So that’s it? 200 samples, sorted in one big folder, alphabetically?

Asking for a friend.

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Tell your friend that subfolders are possible, not sure of a limit of number of samples on the card, but I think that 200 limit was from a few updates back before folders were added.

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What exactly is sh101-sequencing (I know the synth, but what is special about it?)

Asking for someone with a 707, so he can have a go :wink:

Just told him, he said thanks and that you’re a great guy for saying. Take care now.

It’s like you hit record. Sequencer’s armed and waits for your note input. You hit a note, it move one steps forward. Waits again. This way, you can program complex and funky sequences without being able to play them quickly, or just bang away at your keyboard and discover happy accidents this way.

It’s the record - wait for it - press key - wait for it approach. Very mesmerizing.

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Well… on paper 707 is a nearly perfect device. But after several month with the 707 I have to admit that I was more happy and productive with my DN (had to sell it to afford 707).
I think I will sell the 707 and buy a DN + Tr-6s …

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@jottwehh Maybe go 101, sounds from the 707, bit more direct to use, you’d lose deep synth editing though and 4 tracks.

And how on earth do you edit the scatter track on the 101? I - my friend that is - can edit each scatter effect just fine. I can turn the scatter track on and off, just fine. But when it’s one, it’s clearly playing back a sequence of scatter fx which I can’t find anywhere how to edit. I read the manual, did some googling and I’m left feeling nothing but defiled and humiliated.

My friend, that is. Me, I feel great.

I have not tried sequencing it yet, manual alludes to the possibility but doesn’t explain how, aside from mentioning size and hold apply it cyclically if greater than 1, grain selects where in the grid it plays I believe.

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I remember I could do this on the 707 and it wasn’t that hard. And clearly, there is a scatter track going on in the sequencer when I turn the scatter track on or off. But googling around, looking at vids, I find nothing. Yet, there’s a track there, for sure, one that plays back a different sequence of scatters than the ones I get when I just improv on top of it.

I need a good night’s sleep on this and will come back tomorrow, refreshed and restored and figure this thing out. So help me god.

Probably easiest to hit shift and pad in scatter, go to parameter of interest, set for current pad, then hit next pad set value, until all 16 done, then go to next parameter, do same, then that way you can “kind of” get a feel for what they do, mask determines if pattern still plays underneath or not, but I think it also affects other scatter pads, depending on hold parameter.

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One thing I’ll give this little 101 guy - when you go, “I wonder if you can … oh, yep, you could.” It’s not only rich in features on paper, it really has a lot of the details around those features covered as well.

A sampler in this format, that’d be something, wouldn’t it? The evolution of the SP X0X concept, I’d say. It’s essentially what this is, but with a synth and with no sampling then :slight_smile: and just the four tracks.

But the blueprint, it’s right there. Ya hear, Roland? It’s right there, I’m telling ya.

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Not really - it’s more like a prequel/reboot of the MC line (clues in the name) that started with 202 as an all synth groovebox concept and ended with the 808 that combined VA with Sampling. As far as I know the SP line starting with Boss 202 was always sampling only.

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