Max sample files on the +drive?

Elektron Gear Digitakt
#1

On page 23 in the Digitakt manual it says:

The Digitakt can store 2048 samples on the +Drive.

Is this a typo or is there actually a limit to the number of wav files that can be stored on the 1gb non volatile memory?

I would think you can have as many sample wav files you like until you used up your 1gb storage. (That’s how the Analog Rytm works.)

On the same page it says this about the sounds (presets):

The total size of the +Drive is 1 GB. The +Drive Sound library can hold up to 2048 Sounds (256 Sounds in each bank A-H) that are available to all projects.

Now this makes sense since it’s presets with parameters that are organized in banks.

Sincerely
LarsErik

And the answer is yes, it’s a typo:

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Introducing Digitakt
#2

Keep in mind that the DT seems to be doing some duplicating housekeeping in the background, so some of that space could be used for the working duplicates required for its way to manage the new ‘kit’ equivalent … so it’s probably a logical way to organize things such that the housekeeping is transparent and that you don’t easily run out of space for drum hits (ostensibly) … I dunno, but things happen for a reason, and it’s not the conspiracy reasons that’ll no doubt follow my comment

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#4

You both have valid points, might be some technical reason for a 2048 sample file limit on the +Drive for sure.

The reason for me thinking this might be a typo is that reading trough the manual pretty much everything about samples behaves and works exactly like on the Analog Rytm, this however stands out quite a lot.

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#5

All the more reason to use chains or streams.

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#6

+1 !
120x2048 sounds seems enough !

#7

I also think it may be a typo and at minimum a confusion of “sounds” with “samples”.
I think that LarsErik is right on the money. At least I hope so.

2048 “sounds” = 256 sounds in 8 banks. Sure. Makes sense. Why should Samples follow the same scheme, when don’t they in Rytm?
I can’t see why DT would need to duplicate ALL samples for kits when it just loads 127 samples into a 64MB Project as needed.

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#8

I agree , I am making whole drum machine kits into a stream rather than one shots will help me :
a:) find what I am looking for
b:) not use as many slots

I can foresee scrolling lists of hihat names tedious process.

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#9

Sample chains makes a lot of sense for keeping material organized and saving up precious sample ram slots. Digitakt is also better equipped for sample chains then for example the Rytm (imho) since there’s a sample length (LEN) parameter and a two digit precision from 0.00 to 120.00 when selecting length and start of sample playback.

However having to make chains for saving up +Drive “sample storage slots” seems very unlikely the more I think about it…

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#10

So how many possible start points ? :loopy:
120 x 100 ?

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#12

This is a typo. You can have “unlimited” amount of samples on the +Drive. The text should say that Sounds are limited to, 2048 not samples.

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Digitakt 2048 sample limit?
#13

Good stuff! thanks for answering Olle.

#14

So in theory, if your DT was getting full you could resample a Sound, turning it back into a Sample and leave it on the +Drive outside the 2048 working slots until it was needed again, then turn it back into a Sample?

#15

I honestly don’t think you need to resample sounds to free up space.

2048 sound presets is plenty since you on top of that have 128 patterns per project that each can hold 8 sound presets. So 1024 sounds for each project, and you can have multiple projects.

The sounds stored in the sound banks are detached from the sounds used in a pattern. You can load a preset sound into a pattern but if you change it you don’t have to save it to the preset bank if you don’t want to. It all gets saved into the pattern/kit structure.

However, for argument’s sake, would fill up your Digitakt with sound presets a better way to free up space is to midi sysex transfer sounds to your computer for storage.

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#16

I agree it’s probably more than enough. I’m actually a bit baffled by the people saying 128 per project, 2048 in total isn’t enough. But it’s even better knowing that you can have raw stems languishing in the plus drive unallocated to the ‘in use’ list if need be.

I think the Digitakt’s limitations - such as they are - will inspire creativity. As a one time Octatrack owner I really like the fact it does less. It does 90% of what I wanted the Octatrack to do, and just looks soooo much simpler and quicker to use.

[I also don’t care about lack of song mode. But wouldn’t say no to a bit of time-stretching]

#17

Sorry about that typo. It’s fixed in the new version of the manual.

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#18

On the transfer App, can this back up the entire unit?
If so, a quick backup and you can wipe the slate clean if you use the entire memory/ram
Probably a good thing to do, say once a year anyway, to start fresh.
EDIT: OB should be able to manage that task as the website says it acts like a librarian.

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#19

Shit happens.

#20

i was just wondering about this too. thanks for the edit/update.

#22

2 posts were merged into an existing topic: Introducing Digitakt

#23

I did, the Digitakt swallows them like a pro.
She’s chugging for a good twenty minutes but no problems what so ever.

The waveforms perform properly when looped. 10/10.

Though in my opinion the Digitakt is more suited for longer samples which you can pillage for more interesting sounds.

Edit:
Ended up formatting my +drive. Though there weren’t any problems having 4500 samples on the Digitakt, it really served no purpose.
I advise to just move a select few chosen waves over. And don’t forget the Digitakt comes with a couple Factory SCWs.

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