Mastodon instances for electronic musicians?

bibenu · 2025-01-16T14:22:08.306Z

OT - moderation

gr0k:

LOL, did I just witness someone getting censored for talking about a network that cannot be censored? hahahahaha (All of melo_ewfoe’s posts are gone! Including the post you replied to)

Censored or self-censored I wonder ?

LyingDalai · 2025-01-16T14:25:40.000Z

Please stay on topic.

Moderation isn’t censorship, it’s only cleaning.
Everything in it’s right place and you can talk however you want, as long as you respect the guidelines.
https://www.elektronauts.com/faq#keep-tidy

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If you really want to talk about something that is barely related you can use the “details” button. It keeps the conversation focused.
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And talking about flags is, by essence, off topic.
If you really need this, please contact us @Mods (or me) directly.

plragde · 2025-01-16T14:29:56.707Z

splonge:

First time I’ve seen someone post their Mastodon handle here, to be fair I don’t look that hard. I added you, but it’s pending.

It’s all fairly quiet. I think there are pockets of more intense activity but in rather specialized communities. The Web interface I’m using doesn’t seem to update or indicate new posts or notifications like Twitter did; I have to refresh it. This is probably good, also.

gr0k · 2025-01-16T15:15:59.607Z

bibenu:

Censored or self-censored I wonder ?

Based on what happened to my post, I think you can guess hahaha…

LyingDalai:

And talking about flags is, by essence, off topic.

Flags? I may not have seen every post, but what I did see was a person talking about Mastodon bridges in a Mastodon topic, and suggesting people check out Nostr, which is another open source decentralized social media service like Mastodon, which this topic is about?

jm2c · 2025-01-16T20:10:27.214Z

Might be more useful to rename the topic to cover all fediverse -based apps / services?

I’m still unable to join that SoNoMu… its not listed in the mastodon server list under music category even if I try searching for it…

vamoscreciendo · 2025-01-16T20:33:37.757Z

maybe is because of their “about” page? (i just searched for “sonomu mastodon” in duckduckgo, but even there you can see a “create account” button):

SoNoMu = Sound Noise Music

We are a mastodon instance for musicians, sound-artists, producers of any kind of aural noise, songwriters, bedroom producers, sonic manglers and algorave livecoders.

Please do not ask for account here just to try out Mastodon. Our resources are scarce and we’d like a close-knit community of fediverse-active music-makers who are already familiar with fediquette and in need of safe space that they can and know how to use.

When you request a new account on our instance, make sure you introduce yourself thoroughly - as a sound-maker, AND as user of fediverse. Again, please don’t ask for an account here if you don’t know what are content warnings (CWs) and ALT image/media descriptions for within the fedi/masto culture and you are annoyed at people trying to make safer and better spaces for those less privileged.

We take moderation seriously.

plragde · 2025-01-16T20:45:50.477Z

From my browser, I can see the founder of SoNoMu with this URL:

https://mstdn.social/deck/@luka@sonomu.club

(Replace mstdn.social with your own server if you’re on another instance.)

But, as I said, I don’t really know how to search, and I found this by searching for “sonomu”, and noticing that someone typed that string in their message to this person. The @luka in that message brought me to the above URL.

There may be a way to browse all of sonomu.club’s posts from my server, but I don’t know about it.

Not much help, sorry!

vamoscreciendo · 2025-01-16T20:58:54.603Z

something that I have noticed is that sometimes I get more information about a server if I search not from my mastodon account but directly on the website of the server, not logged in, which is strange and wish it was different.
Hier it is the local feed of the sonomu server, i hope it helps your search.

Mastodon hosted on sonomu.club

SoNoMu

SoNoMu (Sound Noise Music) is a mastodon instance for musicians, sound-artists, producers of any kind of aural noise, songwriters, bedroom producers, sonic manglers and algorave livecoders.

dtr · 2025-01-16T21:35:17.877Z

I’m here: Dieter Vandoren (@dietervandoren@assemblag.es) - Assemblag.es

jm2c · 2025-01-17T06:16:41.944Z

I was able to see the sonomu.club in the server list after figuring out I need to search for “sonomu.club” instead of “sonomu”, but the server doesnt accept registrations. I’m going to contact the admin now that I found the account on the mastodon side. Thanks!

cogsy · 2025-01-17T11:37:57.758Z

vamoscreciendo:

maybe is because of their “about” page? (i just searched for “sonomu mastodon” in duckduckgo, but even there you can see a “create account” button):

SoNoMu = Sound Noise Music

We are a mastodon instance for musicians, sound-artists, producers of any kind of aural noise, songwriters, bedroom producers, sonic manglers and algorave livecoders.

Please do not ask for account here just to try out Mastodon. Our resources are scarce and we’d like a close-knit community of fediverse-active music-makers who are already familiar with fediquette and in need of safe space that they can and know how to use.

When you request a new account on our instance, make sure you introduce yourself thoroughly - as a sound-maker, AND as user of fediverse. Again, please don’t ask for an account here if you don’t know what are content warnings (CWs) and ALT image/media descriptions for within the fedi/masto culture and you are annoyed at people trying to make safer and better spaces for those less privileged.

We take moderation seriously.

I’m all for building community and finding other music makers to connect and talk with, but whoever wrote this sounds like a lot. I’m curious about Mastodon, but my main concern is petty tyrant moderators ruling their servers like their own little kingdoms. This does not encourage me to look into Mastodon at all

vamoscreciendo · 2025-01-17T12:05:18.270Z

Most of them are not like this one actually, so you have a lot to choose from if you don’t like this. For me, this looks like a lot, but a lot of care taken for keeping it a safer space for the people in there. Why should they do things “for you”? they are doing things for themselves as they want it. they might not aim to convince you to join them, although I think is nice to see more and more people in the fediverse.
Sometimes there is this analogy to explain the fediverse with email protocol, so i thought of this:
saying that you dont like mastodon because you dont like a server is like saying you dont like to send emails because you dont like gmail.
edit: of course you have the right not to like mastodon or the fediverse. i am also not trying to convince anybody.

cogsy · 2025-01-17T12:12:35.962Z

I’m not asking them to do anything “for me.” I’m just saying this doesn’t look like something I want to be part of for the reasons I explained.

I’ve been meaning to check out some of these new social networks. Mastodon looks interesting, but it almost seems like they are making it willfully obtuse to keep the normies out. Which is fine. It’s their clubhouse and they can do what they want.

vamoscreciendo · 2025-01-17T12:22:23.231Z

Yeah, unfortunately I guess there are different groups doing some gatekeeping, but what I have seen is also a lot of people welcoming new registrations and servers working a lot and getting more server space to be able to keep up with the new people. Of course it is not easy to makes things “easy” to “normies”, who are used to a lot of things that work differently in IG, FB, etc…but I am optimistic that it will get easier and the fediverse will grow.

Octagonist · 2025-01-17T12:48:22.040Z

cogsy:

I’ve been meaning to check out some of these new social networks. Mastodon looks interesting, but it almost seems like they are making it willfully obtuse to keep the normies out. Which is fine. It’s their clubhouse and they can do what they want.

One good thing about Mastodon is that broad, open, general communities can coexist on the network with focused, gate-kept ones. There are boundaries around the communities, but they’re porus. One groups exclusivity shouldn’t inpinge on another group’s lack of it.

However, managing that flexibility is quite technical, and the Mastodon network creators havn’t done a great job of explaining it, or making it easy to do for newcomers.

jm2c · 2025-01-17T14:30:18.471Z

I asked the mod how to join and got ghosted

I also took the time to read the blurb regarding applying to join, and now I dont want to anymore… I get it, they are tired of CIS users harassing them and whatnot, but I would have expected a lil more inclusivity…

We should set up our own EM server?

Alternatively, any other music servers people can recommend?

neilbaldwin · 2025-01-18T07:53:49.909Z

I’ve been a mastodon.social member for years but I’ve never contributed anything. When I first signed up I did find it a bit obtuse and it sort of felt like single people shouting into the void rather than a community atmosphere (in the way it is here or, dare I say, Reddit or Discord). I’m probably using/looking at it wrong though, that’s probable.

One question for seasoned users: I tried to join sonomu to see what it’s about but my mastodon.social credentials don’t work there. Presumably I need then a separate account for sonomu? If so, how do I wander around mastodon.social AND sonomu using the same client/app? This doesn’t seem very obvious.

winrow3745 · 2025-01-18T08:07:57.884Z

A genuine question. Why would I need to do this when I already have Elektronauts?

PofM · 2025-01-18T10:25:58.602Z

neilbaldwin:

One question for seasoned users: I tried to join sonomu to see what it’s about but my mastodon.social credentials don’t work there.

Yes, each server is a separate thing with separate accounts. Sounds like you just gave your mastodon.social login details to the sonomu server admins

Presumably I need then a separate account for sonomu?

To post on that server, yes. But not to read content posted there

Edit: you can think of it like two separate forums that both use Discourse, e.g. elektronauts and llllllll.co - you need separate accounts to post on each, but you can still read the posts on each site even if you only have an account here. The difference is that discourse forums are just websites and are completely separate things that happen to use the same software. With mastodon you can actually follow users on other servers and repost content from other servers, because the software allows users on separate servers to communicate with each other

If so, how do I wander around mastodon.social AND sonomu using the same client/app?

You can enter the full URL of any (public) post on the mastodon network to view it from another server instance, and then you can read posts (and follow users) from anywhere. It’s just a bit of a manual process to initially “find” content that exists in a separate part of the network.

jm2c · 2025-01-18T16:20:34.310Z

Spent more time faffing about. Found one account to follow for some new indie music releases - @ccreleases@musicworld.social

This fediverse thing is fascinating, on one hand it reminds me of the chaotic interweb of the 90s where you never quite knew where you’d end up next, on the other I’m a bit disappointed that the fediverse feels more disjointed than it has to be.

I’ve read that originally, the idea was that everyone would just have one account and could then engage freely with the rest of the fediverse, but in practice things have developed into a state where stuff is more siloed from the overall fediverse and user accounts are splintered across the various platforms. Instead of one account giving me a good view to all the services, not only do I need separate accounts for loop, Pixelfed, Mastodon etc, I also need various accounts for all the servers. I would much prefer an approach something like Discord uses, where your user account is more or less persistent across the various servers. Having to memorize all those passwords for all the servers is a PITA

I suppose one way I could see myself using this is by sharing interesting accounts to follow from all my other accounts into one single account. So I’d basically use the individual accounts just for “cultivating” more stuff for my “main” account