LXR02 SUCKS! Syntakt or Digitone?

I have an LXR02 and the workflow was so jarring. The tedium killed me, and I like drum synthesis, also horrendously buggy. Did anyone experience this.

The morph was very cool and of course the sounds were wild, but is it that much better than Syntakt or Digitone2?

Want to hear peoples thoughts, because I want to buy the Syntakt or Digitone…Already have a Digitakt so familiar with workflow.

Thanks.

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what specifically do you not like about it? can’t really say that mine is buggy, and i think it sounds absolutely great in a mix. the 3 character display for parameters is a little more awkward than my a4, and makes setting up env/lfo modulation a little more tedious, but the sounds i get out of it just work for me and that makes it worth it. never touched the morph yet either so i’ve got a lot more to explore.

syntakt and digitone both sound amazing too, so it’s hard to say without knowing more about your style of music or goals.

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My musical style is Noise Rock and Industrial Music, think Big Black or Ministry, and I felt like the aggression on the LXR would help, but I find it menu-divey and I’m wondering if the Syntakt would’ve been the better choice. However, all the videos of Syntakt sound too polished and a little toyish to me, whereas the LXR does have a more organic sound, despite it being digital.

I also use logic as my DAW and have found difficulty merging BPM on DAW with what I create on the LXR. With Digitakt that issue is simple and so much online on how to figure that out. I’m assuming Syntakt would have similar success.

I guess I’m trying to understand the pros and cons of both. Looking to sell the LXR and purchase a Syntakt, but the Syntakt sounds too tame in all the videos. I love Electron workflow though.

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i would honestly look at digitone for those styles of music. really deep sound design that can get nasty. make sure you sample the hell out of the lxr-02 before you sell it.

outside of that, i’d probably say to save up for a pulsar 23, also really deep and really nice for those styles

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Cheap: Volca Drum, sampled into Ableton
Expensive: Perkons HD-01
Unexpected: A4 Mk1
Authentic: vintage ‘90s BOSS drum machine + pedals

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Digitone for sure. Just the fact that it’s polyphonic and multitimbral will be an incredible help. It doesn’t sound like your genre of choice is heavily dependent on analog sounds (although everyone likes analog so that’s not my point), just that I’m not sure syntakt has a distinct advantage for your use case.

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While I agree with you that Digitone is real good, ST is faster, feels way less menu-diving, has a good analog distorsion and is beat oriented.

That would be my advise.

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That’s a good point, it depends on how the user likes to make beats. There’s certainly an advantage to a faster workflow. I think I’m just accustomed to working with digitone so it doesn’t feel that slow to me, but now that I think about it :sweat_smile:

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Honestly will check out the Digitone. Mind you I want this to be a synth drum for this project. Especially now that Digitone 1’s will be selling for much cheaper after market. Thank you!

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digitone looks like a killer drum synth, definitely my next purchase. make sure you’re into working with fm though, i love operator in ableton as much as anything, but it’s not for everyone. good luck with the music!

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The thread title made me chuckle :smiley: I had the LXR02 and quickly decided to return it.

How about …



(and with Digitakt II)

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If you can spring for a DN2, it is pretty remarkable. But DN1 will do fine if it is just for percussion, with some doubling up on tracks, and more work on the sound design. I did not like the sound of the demos I heard of LXR-02 (though I like the form factor a lot; I have a DB-01). In terms of digital drum synths, the ones I like are Roland TR-6S (which I own) and Nord Drum 2 (which I do not own), but based on what you’ve said about your music, I suspect neither would be to your taste. The A4mk1 is the best drum synth I own, but it definitely takes work (or the right soundpacks) and it may not do the shading-into-noise thing as well as DN.

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Lol, I saw your work in the other thread. Can I ask what in particular you didn’t like about it?

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Ha, for example - there was a snare sound in one of the demos that made me go “wowwww”, but then on the device I found out it was just that one snare sample it came with, so it wasn’t even synthesis!

Today my favourite synth for everything is Digitone II (and it also can sound super brutal), but as others have pointed out it is less straight forward than the Syntakt.

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I’m assuming Digitone can do some killer basslines too?

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Yes, here’s some of my DIGITONE II stuff of various kinds …

More on my channel :wink:

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You like it for the sounds or for all the compression/mixing options?

I think it’s worth noting that there are substantial differences between DN1 and DN2. I’m guessing Jeanne’s demos are made with the DN2? (but I don’t know this for sure). Just so that you don’t go and buy a DN1 and expect it to sound like a DN2 :slight_smile: FWIW the DN1 is also a very capable machine, even though it lacks the drum-oriented synth engine of the DN2.

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Yes, those tracks are all Digitone II. Almost none of this is possible on the OG Digitone, which I would not recommend at all.

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I think you’ll be happy with either ST or DN2.
ST if you want a more focused drum machine and that analog goodness, streamlined mono synths etc.
With DN2 you’ll make drum sounds more from scratch, or use presets, but you gain a whole world of poly synthesis outside of that.