Live recording results in pitch shifted delay...?

So, yesterday I was using the live record feature to record a lead.

I was using a lot of delay effect.

Some of the events seemed to have weird effects on the delay signal. It was like they were being pitch shifted. The effects happened at the same event points on each loop.

I used quantise, but the problem was still there.

So, I used the grid editor to generate the pattern and it was fine.

Any thoughts on what might have cause this and what might stop it from happening.

I almost always play my sequences in live, so getting this working is quite important.

Thanks!

I guess enabling “QUANTIZE LIVE REC” (from the manual) may help?

Actually, I’ve just realised that I’ve been having similar issues with the MnM’s delay. I put that down to bad tracking of the external midi clock signal (from the OT). Maybe there’s something else happening?

yes, this happens with lots of machines when they run as midi-slave and use delay sync…
delay changes “slightly” when midi tempo changes
use machine with synced delays as master
best
niko

are you sure you weren’t just modifying the delay and creating a p-lock - either that or there was a plocked or lfo delay change on the fx track, or performance tweaks

i can’t see what use quantize live rec has on that issue at all !

and the comment about varying clock can be tested by just using the a4

dont the delays emulate a “tape based” style? meaning if you change the ‘delay time’, the pitch of the delayed signal also changes

so yeh, if the delay is synced to midi clock and its drifting for some reason, you will get minor pitch shifting effects

The delay is fine if I use the grid editor instead of live recording.

There shouldn’t be a link between the noted I’m playing and the delay itself, unless micro timing has some kind of hard link to delay time somehow? I definitely didn’t do anything to the delay time itself.

I’m using an Octatrack as clock master, so it should be stable (and is stable if I use the grid editor).

Oh, I should add - I did just use the A4 without Octactrack as master and it still happened.

I can only think that the implementation of micro timing somehow affects the delay time. :confused:

copy your sound to a new pattern/kit with a different kit and try live recording again if you’re curious about getting to the bottom of it

it sounds (without hearing it) very much like something is modulating the delay time, either an env/lfo or if there are some locking trigs lurking on the fx track

what about sending another track thru delay to see if it’s affecting other sounds

strange anyway !

Do you have the oscillator slide perhaps and your hand played notes are set to legato?

I’ll try and narrow it down when I’ve finished the track I’m working on, but I’m pretty sure it’s not oscillator slide. It’s definitely the delay path.