Is Tonverk magical or a hybrid approach with makeup?

Is there anyone that has actual experience of using it as a stem recorder/player?

For example recording and playing back 16 bars of 303 noodling? Does it work smooth on the current OS or are there any dealbreakers? I read that it doesn’t have an audio editor yet

I still don’t get what the sample time is, manual says “6.06.06 minutes?” :confounded:

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Interesting - can you expand on the additional Shark DSP and MVP firmware? This is the first time I’ve heard any specific details about Elektron’s new architecture - where did you get this info? Thanks

Someone played a 45 minute file - but i dont know if the track keeps playing /looping, when the pattern is changed - assuming the maschine type stays consistent in the next played pattern.

1ST The trig only plays on the first loop of the pattern.
1ST The trig does not play on the first loop of the pattern but on all consecutive loops.
LST The trig plays the last time the pattern plays before changing to another pattern.
LST The trig does not play the last time the pattern plays before changing to another pattern

I am happy to see there are also now LST triggers - that makes the sequencer a lot more fun, and overcomes a lot of gripes, because it now also evaluates the song position.

With all the things included - i can clearly see that they improvd at least some things, which needed a workaround before. But please bring it also to the older maschine.

I think tonverk will be a cool device overall, but it could be so much more with a build in synth engine.

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For me Tonverk occupies a kind of weird space because of two reasons:

  1. It’s clearly aimed at sampling synthesizers first and foremost because it lacks basic features like round robin switching and release triggers that are essential for trying to make acoustic multisamples sound real ysing samples.

I’d rather use a synthesizer directly than first sample it.

  1. It’s I/O is way too limited for what a useful “central sampled sounds hub” with a lot of effects and tracks should have. 8 stereo tracks + buses and only 2 stereo outs makes so little sense to me.

Intriguing piece of gear but a bit too weird for me to seem “magical”.

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not sure where and when i wrote “just buy tonverk” :thinking: but i totally accept that comment. I am not here to judge anyone who decides to buy a machine like Tonverk, regardless of what stage they are at or what they do with the machine or how they use it.

But I’m curious to see what some people will do with it.

It’s 3 stereo outs. The headphone out can be configured to be it’s own separate output.

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DT 2 and DN 2 are made on Coldfire CPU (same as all previous elektrons from A4 in 2012) but with additional DSP, that handles audio procession, and also it make possible to add and handle more RAM, here is teardown images with this DSP along with CPU

Tonverk looks like fully new platform on ARM processor, embedded linux (all machines previously worked on custom operation system) and coded on Rust and C++ combination, Elektron hiring developers with such skills from 2021 I think

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3, actually, with headphones out that can be used as another stereo output.

The thing is that if you’re playing outside the studio, is still convenient to have the sounds you like from all your gear…

Thanks for posting.
Delighted to see Elektron has finally moved to ARM - I can imagine it was a painful and slow transition. But this bodes well for the future.

Really interested to see if anyone is able to post photographs of the TV’s internals.

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It would be funny if the chip had a HDMI output.

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Me too, as always :slight_smile:

Supposedly there is a passive heatsink. I am curious if that (CPU) is primarily where the larger power draw goes or elsewhere. Same goes for what circuits are analog but I’d guess the same suspects as usual. Doesn’t sound like the filters are analog. At 15V DC 20W it is the most power demanding Elektron yet, and ARM chips are usually chosen for the energy savings among other things.

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64 stereo voices, all with their own filters, 2 LFOs and so on, plus all the track, bus and send FX. Makes sense that it requires lots of juice.

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Are they reused Boss algos like on the MC101 / 707? Boss fx algos are pretty good overall IMHO

It has also been speculated that TV might run internally @ 96 kHz. Which would add even more CPU burn

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i feel the same way in that i prefer synthesizers because of the “live” organic nature of working with that “alive” sound and sculpting it in realtime

but i think ezbot’s take on it makes a lot of sense, in that its a way to capture sounds you really like, keep them for further use, forever, and further sculpt those sounds

and i think that, not just for synth patches you want to preserve and make polyphonic, but even samples and textures or whatever, you have so much power for mangling and shaping them in intricate constantly shifting and breathing signal paths with a lot of great effects for processing them.

so its a way to capture sounds and transform them. notjust import one shots from someone else’s sample pack and put overdrive and reverb on it for a drum track. its a real sound design laboratory

and i believe it will have even more interesting sound design capabilities in the future

Agreed. If someone just wants to download oneshots, add overdrive + reverb, there are iPhone apps for that, such as Patterning. This is for something a lil more ambitious

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Just did a small litmus test with a single sampled note from Microfreak in a Simpler device with some Flavor Pro at the end (as a replacement for the Degrader effect :stuck_out_tongue: ) and it’s instant vibey dungeon synth ambient chords for days.

I can definitely imagine this being a fun time vortex on TV hardware with all the sequencer, p-lock, bussing and probability tricks.

And yes: I’ve also just proven to myself I don’t need to buy 1399 euro hardware to do all of this, but as a self contained poly ambient sample box it’s quite enticing.

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Hey, what resulted here is you got inspired to use your existing stuff in ways you might have overlooked earlier. Thats a win in my book

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Elektron Firmware Engineer, first day at work…

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Yes, I would like to have it, because it looks pretty awesome, and I obviously have gas, but I think I’m going to hold off for now.

If it gets time stretch, basic audio editing, and ideally chopping, it could in some ways replace the OT for my purposes. I could live with only 2 inputs to get the other goodies. But I’m not sure this is where they’re going with it

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