Gonna go weird/cheap, and say, Korg Volca Drum ticks your boxes (doesn’t it?)
Nah! I sold ND3P for this reason. I have (very) limited space. Size matters.
I only see A/R envelope. Am I wrong ? Also, I keep the LXR, so I feel like they overlap too much sonically.
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Rytm mk1 might fix some problems. It’s smaller and better looking and you won’t hate the pads since you won’t touch them. I use mine exactly the way you describe and like that I can sequence each drum on the low keys and the one synth voice chromatically above them on the same midi channel.
That said I recently picked up the blast beats and I really love it. It’s very peculiar but the midi implementation is delightful (channel 10 for the six drum voices on different notes) and channels 1-4 for the chromatic capable synths. It’s got a very specific sound so it’s not for every day, but as a pure synth that you can twiddle sliders into happy accidents it’s one of my favorites in years.
The two together is a really solid relationship.
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Really? I just put stuff I don’t have space to have out all the time in a couple drawers…
Don’t really get the obsession with size I been seeing a lot
Actually, I get it, but old Elektron size vs Analog size is so immaterial when you really look at it.
Thanks a lot. It’s indeed an option.
I actually own a Blast Beats and still not sure how I fell about it. Not sure it’s sound suites me well. And it’s only 10 kits per song, right ?
you can layer the internal engines with samples and you can do a lot with the noise eng and the dual vco+ the sequencer.
Scenes/perf are great and easy to setup once you wrap your head around it.
Nothing can compete with an used mk1 for the price/features.
Oh I’ve had a mk2 and I prefer the mk1, even if it doesn’t sample and has less usb bandwidth. It takes less space and I find easier to focus on performance and sound design.
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Just looking at your original post, sounds like the Syntakt hits a lot of the boxes you want, but it’s just the data structure. Might be worth getting one and giving it a try. If you can get used to the data structure, it could be a great machine for what you’re looking for. Good thing is, selling it second hand will be pretty easy as well.
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That’s maybe a wise choice. I sold my AR MKII a few weeks ago and honestly, it wasn’t that bad. Also had a chance to play on a mkI, and I prefer the form factor, and don’t need sampling.
I have the Syntakt ! It’s almost perfect but I’m so afraid to have bad surprises on stage, loading edited kits, and accidentally save patterns. That’s the main issue (stupidly, because I love it. More than the AR).
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I’ve had the same feelings at the beginning that’s why I sold the mk2. Some months ago I bought an used mk1 for 700 dollars and I fell in love with it and part of this was due to the smaller form factor. The analog rytm doesn’t reveal itself immediately. You don’t need many samples, just some random sounds/sample chains to manipulate with the sequencer and layer with the internal engines.
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Man I wish I knew the answer to that definitively. I’ve been trying to RTFM, but it sure seems that way? Then there’s the SD card and some way of expanding the number of kits, but I think that’s just the song > kits/patterns structure, but at least you can pop that card out and back up your kits to get more juice out of the box. It’s definitely a niche box, but I like making unlistenable music with destroyed synth percussion (my electribe ER-1 was my introduction to making noise). But yeah, I think it’s 10 kits per song, 16 patterns, kits freely re-assignable per pattern, but still learning on it.
ND2 with an elektron box as a sequencer and midi-CC send recorder could be interesting and compact but expensive depending on what you have
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I can feel that, but it also seems like a worry that will lessen once the muscle memory builds up. Especially since the Syntakt has so many positives.
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The hoarder/collector in me is really challenged by my OTmkii and ARmkii having different shapes. (and I’m one of those weirdos that prefers the larger, tilted format)
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ah, ok. My bad. Sorry
Yeah really. 
I don’t have any space. Seriously. I mean, it isn’t like I live in a tiny cupboard appartment in Paris or London, but still, honestly, space here is…there is none.
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ND2 ?
I would for sure, but the prices are crazy. I guess, that, you know, despite some people knowing better format/size matters.
Yup sad…I had to sell mine during COVID crisis along its pad…I asked 550 euros, what I paid for it…
I have now re-bought a 3P since ND2 prices skyrocketted…Miss a few sound options but still enjoying it a lot !
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