Hello,
Im sorry if this was already discussed but I was unable to find it.
I am recording Pad pressure in real time but it does not come up in the sequenced triggers.
For example: I maintain a pad pressed and vary the pressure which in this case changes the pitch of the sound, but when recording it live the result is only a trigger of the sound without the pad pressure variations I applied.
Is this an error from my AR or is it not possible to record pad pressure to the sequencer?
Thanks!
Wouldnāt that be GREAT? Unfortunately, the answer is noā¦ similar to the A4ās inability to record performance changes in the sequencer. Although extra LFOās (modulation in general) is number one on my wish-list for the RYTM, the ability to record scene performances into the sequencer would really bring sound design to a whole new level. Iām actually a bit surprised these machines donāt have the ability to do so, being touted as having such amazing sequencers and all.
Yeah that would be sick.
+1
Wow, bummer!
Thanks for the reply. Im not an expert but I imagine it should be dooable
the parameters are digitally controlled so fiddling with the performance or scene modes whilst recording should be analogous to turning the Parameter knobsā¦ which IS recorded.
It really is a shame because its such a powerful feature with the machine, giving you endless dynamic variations in the patterns. but not being able to record thisā¦ it kills the fun!!
I hope the add it as a new feature, it would take this machine to the next level.
Donāt go holding your breath, i believe they do this through choice, not lack of ability, itās a performance parameter donāt forget, just like with the A4, though surprisingly the OT records PB/MW etc, my hunch is that ommitting it is the right thing to do because of issues it would introduce due to the nature of the sequencer, who knows ā¦
I donāt think it will ever be a feature.
the joystick of the ak, cannot be recorded by the AK
the fader on the octatrack, cannot be recorded by the octatrack
the joystick on the monomachine-keyboard cannot be recorded by the octatrack
the pressure-pads blabladibla (whatever you call it on the ar) cannot be recordedā¦
to put it simple, some performance features on elektron-machines cannot be recordedā¦ and I think the reason for it, is almost the reverse of why people want it to be recordableā¦ its almost if elektron is scared, you walk on the stage, and just press playā¦ (and that elektron is scared you do that, is not proven knowledge, just my humble opinion)
I thought this Can be done in a daw (according to some interview i once saw)
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I thought this Can be done in a daw (according to some interview i once saw)
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You can come a long long way if you have an external sequencer/daw.
but thatās not what I said:
the OCTATRACK cannot records its OWN fader.
the AK cannot record its OWN joystick.
while you possibly can record the fader by rerouting the midi-out into the midi-inā¦ the AK doesnāt have sequencer that can record midiā¦
so to keep it easy: some stuff you can do with elektron-machines, cannot be recorded/sequenced by itself.
Itād be really cool if a performance recording function was somehow added to STROM.
also noticed that recording scenes alongside retrig is not possible
its certainly a strange/glaring omission
one can certainly āholdā regtrig or scenes as an endless trig
not sure why over bridge or indeed new AR machines are deemed by elektron and elektron users as more important than recording retrigs and scenes into the seq
for now its just a matter of recording the AR live into ableton and dumping the wav back into the Ar or simply playing the new sounds alongside the AR
Per the manual, you canāt record performance or scene changes during live record mode.
Ok, so I understand that unfortunately Scene and Performance are for āperforming liveā
But what about Aftertouch?
I havenĀ“t been able to record that either. Velocity YES. Aftertouch NO?
Is Elektron following on Apples footsteps and leaving out essential features so they have something to add later?
to be fair Aftertouch is a CC intended for traditional synthesisers not really drum machines.
why not just p-lock params that you have associated with the pad if you wanna be able to play it back as sequencer data. otherwise just practice doing it live until u get it right - Iām sure that would be rewarding from a performance pov.
Aftertouch is intended to add variation to a sound you play through the process of pressuring a key/pad so it changes one or various parameters you have assigned to that action, be it in ātraditionalā synthesisers, drum machines or anything in between.
If you have used the AR I think you would agree that P-locking is no replacement for Aftertouch. They are very different things that have very different results, as also occurs with Scenes and Performance mode.
I love practicing and getting it right, but I would like that to be stored in the machine so when I record I could focus on other things that need my attention, which are many.
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[quote=āBlipā]to be fair Aftertouch is a CC intended for traditional synthesisers not really drum machines.
why not just p-lock params that you have associated with the pad if you wanna be able to play it back as sequencer data. otherwise just practice doing it live until u get it right - Iām sure that would be rewarding from a performance pov.
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Aftertouch is intended to add variation to a sound you play through the process of pressuring a key/pad so it changes one or various parameters you have assigned to that action, be it in ātraditionalā synthesisers, drum machines or anything in between.
If you have used the AR I think you would agree that P-locking is no replacement for Aftertouch. They are very different things that have very different results, as also occurs with Scenes and Performance mode.
I love practicing and getting it right, but I would like that to be stored in the machine so when I record I could focus on other things that need my attention, which are many.[/quote]
yeah, but to be fair, the sequencer would only take a snapshot of aftertouch 16 times a bar, so the impact is exactly like plocking anyway, pitch bend on the a4 would be horrible at least as alive performance only layer it sounds great, i like it this way, but i was surprised at first till it made logical sense to me, plus just because you can, doesnāt mean you should
I donĀ“t think I am being unfair, but modulating 5 parameters at once with a touch of a finger is different in time expense and flow than plucking those same parameters trig by trig whilst p-locking. Even though it will by design take snapshots each 16 steps, thats something I can live with.
The problem here is that I canĀ“t. The āIf I shouldā should be up to me.
I was alluding to the manufacturerās prerogative ā¦ fender could put a whammy bar on all telecasters, ferrari could put a roof-rack on their cars, but they donāt, if everyone put everything on everything, everything would be the same almost, sometimes products are defined by what they canāt do and how you work around it, anyway, iām just saying that it doesnāt exist, itās not surprising, and if you think about things it sometimes makes sense, as much as we want everything, or more lfos etc etc, there are limits for aesthetic and technical reasons, the AR is dumbed down midi resolution wise compared to A4 mostly 7bit as opposed to 14 bit, they couldāve made it that way, but maybe from a ux point of view they didnāt want to for the expected user base or maybe they didnāt because the processor is maxed out, there are more reports of AR midi breakdowns - thereās nothing in their past which would lead you to expect them to record performance parameters, so i think itās an aesthetic choice, probably with quite a few headaches behind the scenes, at least when i think it through - so, itās only up to you to choose whatās right for you, but the comment about plocking equivalency made by blip does stand, even though itās seemingly a hassle !
This was a very early request for the OT, in terms of being able to record the Scene changes with the Crossfader. That never happened, and I suspect never will, which is fairly disappointing.
Iād say that the same architecture that exists for the crossfader control of scenes in the PT apply to the the pressure pads in performance mode on the AR.
So, I wouldnāt hold your breath.
Likely itās that the memory/processing power needed to store that many changes in parameters simultaneously is, for some reason, not available.
you could have a look at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3Dm0UZPobs is open on testflight. i do like the idea of a performance recording function, nice 
The sad thing is with this that where imho the pads of the AR really SHINE is where it comes to aftertouch. It really almost feels like a fingerboard and with long toms or decayed sounds it sounds so awesomeā¦
I thought for a second that maybe if I turn off quantize I can record this, but I guess not.