Yeah it’s annoying, but on the other hand Apple operating systems are much cleaner and nicely designed. Windows are getting more and more like some split/multiple personality OS, it’s weird. I’m not sure if that’s backward compatibility side effect or they just don’t care to clean up old stuff.
I keep looking at mid-century communism and wondering/lamenting its repeated descent into dictatorship. I appreciate your pointing out what they also achieved.
All I know is I constantly break new software, and not on purpose!
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I’m a linux guy anyway I also work for one of the big ones 
A decent operating system MUST have decent backwards compatibility period
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New software breaks me!
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I wish the paranoia in this thread had planned obsolescence 
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some emulators like sheep shaver can be fun if anyone is looking to go down memory lane without old hardware. https://macintoshgarden.org/ is full up with abandon ware
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Very interesting discussion.
Off the bat I would’ve said “oh yes, Apple is very much interested in excluding older software and hardware as to produce more demand for new products.
Just look at the obvious planned obsolescence when gluing batteries onto motherboards (this is still a valid point though isn’t it?!).
After reading some posts here though I feel like I wasn’t all that right in my thinking. Good to have you guys on the Internet.
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Hah, I’ll take that as not sarcastic 
It’s not that I don’t have complaints, and that there aren’t many to make, but I didn’t think Apple was uniquely bad in some policies, especially compared with other possible warranties/builds. I’m also likely fussier about the use of “obsolescence” than most would be since I’ve done a lot of sustaining engineering keeping old model laptops going professionally (and personally, to keep stuff out of the trash within monetary reason.)
To the logic board/motherboard, depends on the model and desktop/notebook format.
Not clearing things up terribly, but from an iFixIt thread-
I doubt things have changed too drastically since Apple silicon.
Oh, absolutely not here to argue against FOSS movement and how the Gates of this world screwed homebrew. I do rely too much on others’ solutions over building / contributing to preferred ones.
Things have indeed changed with Apple Silicon as neither SMC nor NVRAM resets are really a thing anymore, you can reset NV but it’s not a standard procedure anymore.
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While working as a CIO I purchased maybe 30 Macs and 1000 Windows computers. I would never consider running something important, like clinical records or billing software, on anything but Windows.
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Just out of curiosity, what apps do you love that have become obsolete?
Lots of games and a few pieces of music software. My favorite was Defender Chronicles.
Most voters prefer not to starve to death, I assume.
Ah, didn’t even consider games, bummer…
No investigation, no right to speak.
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Fuck me.
I make one little joke and you all get your politics in a twist…
I should have written it in my comedy Bolshevik accent, then you’d all have got it.
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Tis a common problem these days.
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Now I’m wondering what the Soviet groove box market would have cooked up if the Wall had never gone down. Some kind of unholy union between a Casio SK-1 and a Polivoks, I guess.
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It’s more like a different update model actually. iOS ties everything to system updates, in Android half of the stuff updates separately through Google Play.
I think I heard Google just removed Android 4.4 support from Google Play Services, and it was released a decade ago.
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