Btw. I did also ask about the future of the DT2 and the answer I got, which I will remain vague about out of respect, will make a lot of former Octatrack now DT2 users happy. You make of it what you will :).
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The only way this makes sense to me is if they give it record trigs/buffers. Which would be a strange move, as that fits way better to their vision youâre describing for Tonverk. With its busses and insert FX, itâs already halfway there to being their new performance sampler.
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While that could be the case, Iâm gonna go out on a limb here and suggest an A and B version of patterns that you can morph in between like scenes tied to perform mode.
Thatâs enough DT2 speculation for a Tonverk thread though. Carry on!
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I hope itâs a proper granular machine and not âjustâ a granular effect?
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First the Tonverk and now the web pageâŠall this company has left is vibe coders!
I wonât complain if itâs good vibes only.
Hmmm? I canât get what is âproper granular machineâ.
We are already have it in base sample machine.
Where are modulatable sample start-end loop points.
Yes, but thatâs the complete opposite of a proper granular engine.
This is âfake granularâ using a normal sample engine.
The main difference is that a proper granular engine can produce more than a single grain. 4096 grains if we take tempera as an example⊠although a few less would be fine too. 
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If somebody wants to get a cheap TV before the update drops and prices might go up, hereâs a b-stock for 1.090âŹ!
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With code âblack25â only 1036,35 âŹ
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With the new update 1.10 bringing so many impressive new features while fixing bugs and implementing quality of life stuff youâd expect from Elektron, I canât avoid thinking: why on earth didnât they wait and release it now, making 1.10 a 1.0? I canât imagine what the conversation would be if they released it with this feature set and none of the early adopters complaining about massive bugs. My guess is people would have been all over it. Such a weird strategy, but at least theyâre back on track.
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Iâm guessing for financial reasons they had to have it released and actually in stores before black Friday / Christmas season.
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Letâs see. MPC Key 37 - $600.00 Cydrums - $350. Oxi one - $500
Close.
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I am happy I got it in a cheaper state and could get familliar with the new stuff before being overwhelmed by all updates
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When is Trummaverk landing?
Can anyone share some super basic best practices when it comes to creating multisample instruments?
I guess Iâm just curious what amount of round robin and velocity layers you are using or would recommend.
Thanks.
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Wanted to do a bit of a âvsâ thing for anyone considering getting a TV for live shows. My current live setup is Tonverk, Digitone 2, plus some additional fx for playing guitar, singing, etc.
My previous live setup was an MPC One+, sequenced by a Syntakt. In both cases I load up as many as (but never more than) 16 stems per âsong.â In some cases the stems are finished, mixed/mastered pieces of each âsongâ to ensure the best sound quality possible, so while I donât really need to add anything with the Syntakt or DN2, I usually do to add interest, improvise and change things up any time I see fit. Hereâs my Syntakt/MPC One+ vs Tonverk/DN2 thoughts so far.
MPC One+/Syntakt
PROS- You can probably purchase this combo for (or less than) half the price than the TV/DN2 and itâs freaking killer. You can do a lot of damage with this setup. Loading stems/setup is significantly faster on this combo than the TV/DN2. Iâm talking minutes vs hours. I do a different set every week, so thatâs not a small consideration. I canât speak to the MPC 3 OS, but on the older MPC 2 platform, I just set up a drum program, put my stems in and sequence from Syntakt. Crazy fast. The MPC One+ sounds pretty damn good and has many quality fx that can be used (up to 4 at a time on both the individual pads as well as the master bus). The Syntakt is awesome and I can have perc and sometimes bass on different mixer channels to adjust levels live. I highly recommend this setup if you do the quasi DJ kind of performances but want the ability to add things and improvise as well.
CONS- Apart from this way I load stems into drum programs, I just donât care for the MPC workflow at all. Not my cup of tea by a long shot. And though there are many great fx, I canât really âplayâ them like I can on my TV or DN2. They sound a bit more sterile to me as wellâŠmaybe even generic? They are really good though.
TONVERK/DIGITONE 2
PROS- Sound quality is just next level. The other rig sounds very good and even âprofessional,â but TV/DN2 is in a whole other category to me and from what some engineer pals have stated since I switched. Polyphony on the DN-2 is great if I just want to play some chords in on the fly, among the many other things there are to love about that box. The TV/DN2 combo has a smaller footprint which creates a bit more space on the live board. Though the load/setup time is considerably longer ( like a lot!), once it is set up, I find I have a ton more musical options to explore and expand upon. The fx can be âplayedâ in a way and Iâm finding my sets are more varied, dynamic and interesting with this setup.
CONS- Fairly expensive for what could be seen as marginal gains compared to the MPC/ST combo. Setting up, loading stems, etc takes quite a bit more time. Worth it to me, but maybe not for someone else.
Sorry for the long post, but I thought maybe this could be useful to someone
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Hi everybody. Anyone knows or heard anything about overbridge for Tonverk?
Since it has never been mentioned I guess its a structural thing like the Octatrack?
Thanks
They started vibe coding the Octatrack II but they got lost due to the thing being too complicated for vibe coding. The result : the Tonverk without Overbridge.
[mod edit] to a person that think this is a reliable source: this is an obvious joke
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This has been extremely useful, thanks for taking the time! Since MPC Live 3 came out, I took a look at MPCs for the first time. And the thought of whether I can justify having all of that other stuff around when I could just do it all with this box has entered my thoughts more than once since. But my gut feeling always is: Just like with Push 2 earlier this year, I will lose interest in learning a new workflow after a few hours and just not use it for making music because Iâd feel way more âboxed inâ than with my Elektrons and would make music thatâs a lot more static/less quirky and interesting. The way you describe it, I feel confident my feeling is right.
@Xkape: Tchu is just joking around. I wouldnât expect Overbridge to ever come to TV. If they were planning this, they would have promised it at release like with the IIs. I feel with the three stereo outputs, they see TV as something you use with these. I can also see OB being too taxing with potentially 64 individual tracks when using eight sub tracks (although they could let you just route the super tracks, but then people would get pissed). So if OB is indespensible for you, donât buy a TV until they announce it (which I donât think will happen).
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