I’ve tried this before, and been frustrated by the fact that I have to commit a hand and eyes onto a (soft) knob to do it, especially when that setting is on a Setup menu that CANNOT be assigned to CF scenes.
The only way I can get close is using 2 or more PU machines (each listening to input and each other in round-robin setup) and use scenes to change the (master-loop’s) LENgth setting (for slave loops). This requires a free hand and triples the # of steps required to do what I got used to doing on the Gibson EDP+ rack looper.
I’m specifically interested in doing that form of hands-free with a single “re-scale” button, the way it work for me on the (20-year old) Gibson EDP+.
Specifically, you re-define loop-points (and length) by performing them, punching in and out, letting the loop grow (while overdubbing).
I described (and documented) the process on another PU-machine thread here.
That should help clarify the “one-touch/realtime” distinctions.
My present work-around is described on my post on PolySampling, here.
I see how the LEN parameter is useful for working with multiple PU machines w/ OT as clock master, but thing become a mess outside that narrow setup.
I guess the (admittedly ambitious) Elektron-style solution would be one of 3 approaches.
The first two would expand the PU machine’s PlayBack page to add a new control to knob D (presently blank) to automate or change apparently-available behaviors. The other two are pie-in-sky ideas for entirely new machines.
- PickUp Loop ReMultiply, with settings in a range of [1/16, 2/16, 3/16…1/2…1x, 1.25x, 1.5x, 1.75x, 2x, 3x etc ] which would default to a knob-center of 1x. Changing this setting could multiply-lengthen OR divide-shorten the loop at each passing (as the existing Multiply does), but now it can could grow, shrink, and keep up with the polyrhythmic options of the OT’s sequencer Scale.
- PickUp Loop SyncReference, which sets PU machines to either sync to each other in Master/Slave to set Clock Master, or set them to be triggered by the Track sequencer, with their Record/Playback lengths determined using the Scale setting like you do for every other machine’s trigs ! While hitting a Trig in Scale mode sets the END point, perhaps Shift+Trig in Scale mode re-sets the START point.
- Create a new “ReFlex” machine; like a “Flex with OverDub”…swap the Flex’s Knob A (Pitch shift) for ReRec mode, so that any (manual or sequenced) Recorder trigs could be set to [ New, Overdub, Replace ] to change the style writing to memory over whatever is playing back. (no Multiply/Divide needed if it could re-trigger with P-Locks
- create new PutDown machine: a PU machine (with over-dub/etc) with Start and End points from the Playback page (no DIR necessary).
Thoughts ?