Introducing Digitone II

Don’t forget that everything regarding the LFOs is p-lockable. For me, that alone is reason enough to not hide the assignments in a sub-menu and make it more complicated than it needs to be. If you run out of LFOs for your ideas, again, everything is p-lockable. That’s your LFO designer! With p-lockable destinations. So you have a system where you can freely assign each of the 3 track LFOs to all kinds of targets with all kinds of possible speeds, depths, trig behaviours, and so on, per step! All available from a single page without any sub-menus. Imho, much nicer than how the OT handles LFOs.

Edit: And if that’s still not enough for you, there are 16 tracks now. Copy the preset and sequence to a new track, or link tracks, assign different LFOs, pan one track left and the other one right, or tune one track an octave lower, and you’ve got something you wouldn’t have come up with otherwise.

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No. Lfo designer allows you to apply defined offsets, at different speed or randomly. A defined pitched scale, defined ratios, defined comb filter frequencies, whatever…

You can’t do that with plocks.

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Of course it’s not the same as the LFO designer on the OT. It’s the closest thing to get to it though, while still keeping things nice and tidy. I’m not sure if I understand you correctly, but why would I need to p-lock the LFO with a definded offset or comb filter frequency if I can just p-lock the value itself?

Oh boy, why did I go pick up my package while working from home.
Why did I open the package after repeating myself to wait until this evening …
Oh boy, that shit sounds good…

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Here is an example with OT. Defined offsets of comb filter notes. Selected notes played randomly…(noise + comb filter only)

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Stop making me feel inadequate!!

So you used the LFO designer to sequence the comb filter notes, if I understand correctly. This couldn’t have been achieved by just p-locking the comb filter notes on the DTII? I guess you would lose the randomness then, right?

@Azzarole @Python

I hear what you’re saying. I think the LFO Designer alone is a huge thing. Used it all the time for custom envelopes and LFOs. As for the sub-pages, I don’t see it as being any different than how the MW/VEL/BC assignment menus are setup. It’s not like you could p-lock the LFO designer anyway.

With that said, you can never have too much modulation. Hell, I’ll use 5 outputs of my Ochd in my euro on one oscillator just to give it real movement. P-locks are awesome, but the lack of slides means it’s always stepped.

Again, anyone here who knows me knows I love Elektron, but that doesn’t mean I don’t have hopes and dreams!

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The real downside with freely assignable LFOs is that you can’t save sound presets with them. Because you cannot rely on a certain number of LFOs available for each track, there is no way to save a sound preset with modulation. This is why the MD has kits but no individual sound presets, you have to save all the sounds together as a kit to know where the LFOs are going. I’ll take saving sound presets each with three LFOs over freely assignable LFOs all day.

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It would be fixed. With lfo designer the speed can be different from track length, randomized, plocked with trig conditions. It allows great generative music variations with control, musical values like pitch, speed, delay…
Really interesting applied on arp speed for instance.

Well, I’d be happy with a simple random arp mode on DN2…

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lol, okay thanks, I get what you mean now :sweat_smile:
I had always thought about how the new system on the digis allows to be much more specific in comparison to the OT. But yeah, it’s less suitable for being random and generative in a really specific way or to decouple modulation from the track lengths.

Hi Gino, I see you have the DNKeys in the background, do you plan on keeping it along with the new DN2?
Apologies if you’ve already answered this before.

I asked for LFO designer for DN a long time ago and I think it would work very well with the DN. I think the main difference here is that with LFO designer you could design the preset with sequencer like modulation and play it with the keys. However, as Python says you can still get pretty close by using the sequencer and P-locking.

But hopefully we’ll see it in a future update :grinning:

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Thinking of it more, on digis, with midi loopback, a midi track with plocked values and probability, exotic length, you can mimic an lfo designer, eventually several…

Lacks Lfo speed variations.

yup, I made a whole album with that approach on the DN

Would it be possible to put some trigless locks in the sequencer and just play something live on top of that? Actually never tried something like that.

But you can P-lock LFO speeds :grinning:

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Sure, but that doesn’t make an lfo designer with specific values.

AFAIK DN1 was the only Elektron that allows that. I hope DN2 behaves similarly! :pray:

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i am completely blown away by how good this thing sounds. i really didnt imagine i would be in awe of how well it does piano, strings, like very very analog sounding va. it really feels like a poly a4 with more diverse synthesis plus like a crazy model cycles built in, all housed in the most powerful elektron box yet.

note edit in practice is also better than i imagined. just unreal that they developed these digi boxes so much perfect. its weird when a synth company actually listens and doesnt stop giving people what they want

i was not prepared for them to release something that i had been wishing for, for a very long time, just out of the blue. and its honestly so much better than i would have anticipated if i knew there was a new elektron box coming this month. like who wouldve thought theyd create a new way to handle polyphonic chords in a 16 track, 16 voice machine with the most flexible synth engine ive heard from them yet and include drums and a compressor with it? thats crazy

the dn2 did not have to be this good

it just arrived and it still hasnt fully hit me yet. i feel like i won a contest or something. it sounds like hyperbole but this is like a miraculous device.

fuckin unreal

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That’s pretty much the ONLY thing I can see as being a downside.

I plan to keep it until they launch a DNK2 :slight_smile:

I have no inside info on this, but would love to see a DNK2

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