From Intellijel description :
- Soft Clipping Character: Integrated analog saturation across channel gains, EQ, aux busses, filter bus, and main output.
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I am waiting for restock of Jellymix in Thomann, in hope of buying one, and I also have modular. If I only used modular, I would not think of Jellymix. I will give you my perspective, to supplement, what @schel, already shared.
In my cases I have:
- Pittsburgh Modular Lifeforms System Interface - and the primary assumption is how sparsely I use it for fine control of effect sends. I am basically having two delay modules - Dreadbox Nostalgia - that are fed from single buffered aux send, but are set to 3/4 and 6/4 delay time and are panned hard left and right in the mixerâs channels 1 and 2, and by doing so, I can fed back just from second delay, which adds to the character of the repeats. I can also collect from other taps, using other mixers, which are plenty in my system, but am not counting them, to streamline this already lengthy post. Now, if this was the best in eurolant, I wouldnât have euro only alternative to Jellymix. But I have next one.
- Xaoc Devices Ostrawa with Bohumin expander - this is the thing that I would recommend in place of Jellymix, if you want the closest thing to Jellymix, in my opinion. It does have four stereo channels, with four stereo sends, which are the biggest appeal of Jellymix, for me, and I treat all the other atributes as cherry on top to already convinced mind. Advantages of this setup are CV controls, and also - VCA that is already there (read: special case of mentioned CV controls.). If you like Elektron flow, if you like per step FX sends setup, this is what is undoubtedly the biggest advantage of such setup. Also, before next recommendation, I cannot tell you enough, how big thing for me is to use, similarly to previous module, full channel for delay return and utilising its send for feedback. Pair that with insert stereo filter, comb filter or pitch shifterâŚ
- Befaco Hexmix with all additions - this one is more in line with first module mentioned, but has a lot more channels and some functionality from Ostrawa, like CV controls for VCA. But there is more!
- Doepfer Matrix Mixer - here is interesting middle ground and one of least expensive options. It works as four mono buses mixer and with buffered mults one can build it âwithout limitsâ. You can expand it sideways, with more busses, but with mult per input device to copy signal for each device, but also - breaking chain and going with different devices. And expanding vertically, you can connect more channels, although it doesnât scale linearly and needs more modules than one might thought, but I will leave it to you as an exercise, if you want to (it can be fixed with less expensive non matrix mixer, even without attenuation, so simpler DIY solutions are viable option here).
Between all these options, the last one is the most flexible (even giving some options unavailable in all the others mentioned here, like polarisation), but requires more working on performance preparation. The closest to what Jellymix offers, is Ostrawa, in terms of functionality and performance immediacy. If you donât need stereo sends, Praga would be my recommendation.
I am going with Jellymix only because I have stand alone synths that need external effects for best fit to my music. Jellymix works best for my style, where I need immediacy in terms of timespan from idea to realisation, no hiccups (Xaocâs and Lifeform modules give me that in euroland) in the process. It is a lot cheaper than SSL BiX SiX and offers me what I needed BiG SiX for - two stereo sends, analog feedback and mentioned immediacy.
If I didnât have that few synths, I wouldnât need Jellymix. I mean: it is a hobby, I donât need it either way, but it gives me so much for so good money, that it is really hard to resist. (and yes, I can predict that, because I already had BiG SiX in this place, which is moved elsewhere).
Final note about utilising Jellymix (drawn from my experience with BiG SiX) in a setup with eurorack. I have so much control over eurorack, with effects and mixers, that I donât need any additional channel processing in mixers. This means that I am connecting my eurorack to IP input, bypassing even Ext In of mixer, so I donât even have volume control over that. When Jellymix arrives here, where I donât have non eurorack performance mixer now, I will probably route eurorack cases to Ext In (where delay return would be routed, but - vide: my delay routing), also bypassing all performance controls.
Hope this helps!
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Its awesome to use with Eurorack only.
I handles the loud output from the Modules really well.
Iâm using Eurorack fx only for the sends, works Like a charm.
Also its kind of hard to find a stereo hipass+lopass Like on the jellymix Master in Eurorack.
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On the opposite end of the impedance spectrum, is anyone using guitar pedals on the sends? Iâm concerned that the signal would be too quiet coming back through the returns, and those channels donât appear to have volume controls.
Iâve used several different pedals from different brands, never been a problem.
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Iâm using primarily with eurorack because there wasnât a cheaper mixer available that offered two stereo auxes and the option for multiple outs. ALA does not count, haha.
According to his instagram Ian Pooley will be using one live.
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You need a Radial EXTC Reamp for this purpose, my friend!
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Did you try it?
I would confirm before buying extra equipment for this. My guess is they will work fine without reamping
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not necessarily, depends on the pedal youâre using
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Doubtful. I use guitar reverb and delay pedals and they work perfectly.
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Yes, reamping is useful, however it depends on the pedal design.
E.g. my RAT 2 easily gets overloaded when I feed it with a too hot synth line level and this doesnât sound good and can be easily distinguished from its own distortion / fuzz.
Even Chase Bliss does not guarantee, that its pedals work well with line level.
Thatâs why I can only recommend the Radial EXTC Stereo reamping solution, if the pedal manufacturer doesnât assure that its pedal will work with line level.
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Iâve just been getting set up with my Jellymix and learning how to use it. Itâs my first mixer. I have noticed when using Chase Bliss MOOD mk ii as a send, the signal coming back into the mix is really quiet.
I probably have some gain staging troubleshooting to do but it feels like itâs really easy to send too hot of a signal into MOOD and hard to get the level right.
This is the difference between instrument level and line level.
Most guitar focused pedals expect instrument level signals as input, and provide instrument level at output.
Your Jellymix sends out line level signals which are considerably hotter than instrument level, and conversely youâll need to boost your signals coming back from your pedal if the pedal output is at instrument level.
âFancyâ pedals (e.g. Eventide H90) sometimes have settings to choose whether the pedal expects to get/send Instrument or Line Level.
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Weird. I didnât have an issue with mood2 at all. Had it on an aux out and the volume was fine. I set the mix knob to full and was good to go. Currently using Rooms and some guitar pedal delays with no volume issues. Rooms is sensitive to volume input but the knob is easy to dial in.
I am using the el capistan delay pedal with the Jelly and it works perfect
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Iâm getting a Jellymix today. My plan is to pair it with the Vermona PERfourMER.
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It might just be my newness to mixer gain staging. I donât have a good handle yet on where the input gain should be in relation to the level. I also donât fully understand the pre/post options for the sends and how that might affect the volume level. I need to spend some time with the manual!
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CBA of all pedals, especially the newer ones, are designed for use with synths as well as guitars interchangeably. The line level input âissueâ is not applicable to a Mood Mk2.
I would be surprised if it outputs an especially low volume. Iâm willing to bet if you tinker with the mixerâs settings it will work out.