Good sleuthin’
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From the article, something also relevant for those here posting music on IG:
“ The message indicates that if your account is public and you post a video that ends up being turned into a Reel, anyone can discover your Reel and use your original audio to create their own Reel. If your account is set to private, your Reel will only be visible to your followers. The message also notes that once you post a Reel, anyone can create a remix with your Reel if your account is public. However, you can prevent people from remixing your Reels in your account settings. “
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We do need a platform that’s something between YouTube, Soundcloud and IG that’s more focussed towards musicians and sharing music - always feels like we’re working within a system engineered for others.
Feels like there must be a market for it, and unlike many niches I feel like there’s a good portion of us only there to consume music content.
Get on it Zuckerborg.
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By it I presume you mean his rocket back to whatever lizard planet he came from.
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I bet he’s got that on the ceiling above his bed.
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A mirror?
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This! I’ve been speaking with a visual artist here in Bristol (a founding member of Spike Island no less) about how crap IG is for artists of any kind to display their work, and how you end up with at least as many adverts and ‘suggested posts’ than actual content from your followed accounts. It’s a minefield and there needs to be a ‘platform’ for creatives that doesn’t pander to the lowest common denominator and doesn’t listen to you speaking to your mates to come up with adverts to shove down your throat.
I wish I had some sort of knowledge on how to put something like this together. I’m sure if people were able to make money from it they’d be happy to pay for such a service. Just a social media platform that doesn’t treat the customer as the product and the advertisers as the customers would be nice.
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Nothing constructive to add other than further eye-rolls. Quite mad to watch platforms that each had it’s own feel/purpose homogenise: can practically see the executive whiteboard with scrawls of ‘we need to be more like tiktok’. Edit: you too YouTube.
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Everybody is so on point in this thread.
I’ve a couple accounts on IG and one is different from the other. I was going to chime in @lesstalkmoredisco but you’ve already discovered what was happening.
The feed on my other account is total BS. It’s shit to scroll through and the content is just as bad as my regular account. It’s full of adverts and videos/pictures that show up because I watched a reel from this other person or because I reacted to a post from blah blah blah.
I shouldn’t really moan because it’s upto them how they do their shit. I used to accept it for what it was and liked it. Now I accept it for what it is and think it’s batshit.
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I think the reels work ok for smaller more focused accounts trying to lead people off of instagram basically just there to give people a taste of larger videos or something. Although I think part of the point of the reels is the like rapid fire videos and to keep you from actually going into peoples profiles and engaging with them more deeply. They want you seeing tons of videos and ads in-between.
The whole algo stuff is more problematic to me as it seems to be designed around tapping into addictive qualities, instead of content you actually find rewarding to see. You basically have to mentally prepare yourself fully disengage and close the app the second it starts to show you “eye bait” type content (stuff you would never seek out but for whatever reason end up watching out of mild curiosity) because that is the content the algo loves. By its nature it avoids more original content as it has no clue what to feed people next to keep them trapped in a daze watching. That’s why content farm and people essentially remaking making the exact same videos, e.g. doing the same dance to the same song is so popular.
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I swear the YouTube shorts fuck up my attention span and still I find myself bingewatching shorts I don’t really care about, strange.
…sad but truu…the tik tok fast fast feed fashion is what todays teens want…
and what todays teens want, to further crumble down their attention spans, is what rules the net and social networx in particular…more and more…
Facebook and Youtube are both getting lunch eaten by Tiktok on short-form videos and da youfs.
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Kids today aren’t physiologically different, it’s the hostile psychology of our “attention economy” that is to blame for consumption.
The format is designed for longer “engagement”, it’s easier to force commercials into a stream of small videos.
← Attention deficit disordered long before the web existed.
Kids today aren’t physiologically different
I’m sympathetic toward the systems-level argument but this is not correct, decades of corn- and soy-based diet actually denatures the nervous systems and coaches the organism toward a hibernation state. video reels reflect that - short bursts of dopamine to leverage attention from point a to point b with very little conscious brain activity between. and this applies epigenetically… parents pass on unconsciousness to children. so actually you need to pair a system approach to the attention economy with an equal system approach to dietary changes over the past 5 decades in my opinion.
not sure if this is off-topic or not but I’ll conclude by saying I’ve adapted by trimming my musical postings to minute-and-a-half perfect loops.
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All of thispseudoscience is unnecessary when we are discussing how social media is designed for an “attention economy” to destroy your concentration until you are flicking your feed over and over.
Maybe it is difficult for kids who grew up without ADD and without the internet in broad use to contextualize what existed beforehand, but i’m well aware of the malicious patterns of development.
The Facebook papers discuss this observed, intentional societal harm in detail, using internal findings, no need for bad biology.
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err, sorry you think it’s pseudo-science. but the quality of your protein intake matters, some thing are not friendly to human digestion even though they are marketed as such by “real scientists.”
it’s a true fact that the social media networks are owned by investors whose portfolios include food processors and farming monopolies. if YOU were trying to dominate all the world’s wealth, at some point surely you’d ask yourself: why not both?
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Because we have factual evidence of coordinated manipulation from the source (social media companies and their industrial psychologists), we don’t need to fabricate bad physical research to discuss the specific societal/systemic problems being harnessed for attention control.
Nor do we need the questionable ideological conspiracies being pushed to try and control us from another vector.
Corn syrup and soy are cheap, subsidized too much and not a full diet, of course, but when you get into the “mind control from ELITES” suggestions, i don’t need another manipulative group trying to inject control over society.
That’s just another jockeying for power with conspiracy theories, and does more damage with what it’s injecting into peoples brains than trying to simply tune us to healthier food products.
Can society eat better? Of course. We should work to protect the bodies of the underclass from food deserts and nutrition free foods, better distribution of vegetables etc etc.
Are kids on social media because of industrial food production? That’s pseudoscience and poorly masked ideology.
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Technically not IG related, but there’s a lot going on with TikTok and their UI model. Since other apps are following suit you have to wonder what the repercussions will be.
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