Inevitable machinedrum

closencounters · 2022-10-21T07:41:58.074Z

for the price of what the uw versions are going, you can get both md mk2 + a brand new octatrack for about the same price or less

LyingDalai · 2022-10-21T07:56:46.610Z

petezoid:

so no need for an ar mki/ii thx

I think you ruled it out pretty quickly…
AR offers both synthesis and sampling, and covers a similar territory as DT.
I really enjoy MD more when it has a dirt pedal behind, btw, and AR has dirt covered already ^^.

Points where MD shines are IMO

synthesis: it’s digital, but 12 bits so there is something round/warm in the sound. The filters are good as well.
CTRL+AL: same as Digi/Model series, it’s instant mayhem, but the reload function uses the same hold key, so it makes it very fast and failproof.
instant resample à la OT (UW)
freely assignable LFOs

UW+ is very useful, to have several projects or to use samples.

As much as I love mine, I do believe $2500 is way too much.
And not enough, you’ll like something like a Deco or an Analog Heat behind ^^

fjl · 2022-10-21T09:13:50.513Z

petezoid:

field recordings, voices, backing tracks are important sure, but couldn’t i pump a field recorder thru a non-uw

Something you should know: the MD’s maximum sample length is pretty short, samples are 12bit and mono. It will probably not work very well for backing tracks or field recordings.

Nils · 2022-10-21T10:16:51.553Z

The internal E12 samples and the User Waves are 12 bit, the rest is 24bit (FM, physical models etc.)

Roya · 2022-10-21T10:32:01.212Z

Paid 1000 Euros a couple years ago for a MINT mk2 UW+.

I guess it was just before the prices went up…

My guess is that they will keep going up (look at the prices for an 808 / 909 in the last couple of years)

slicetwo · 2022-10-21T12:29:47.676Z

Syntakt and iPad would give you compressors and all you’d need is a USB cable between the 2 devices. The MD is crazy, but the ST sequencer is better, and you can get some crazy shit from it.

Plus, with the iPad, you’ll have all the samplers and fx you need.

Strutter · 2022-10-21T12:51:24.146Z

I just sold my UW for 1500€. I think it’s a good price for both parties.
The MnM on the other hand I wouldn’t let go of even for 3000€.

petezoid · 2022-10-21T16:56:01.392Z

LyingDalai:

I really enjoy MD more when it has a dirt pedal behind

i see you are also of culture … i use a feedback mixer for this so the allure of uw is fedback ram machines

LyingDalai:

CTRL+AL: same as Digi/Model series, it’s instant mayhem, but the reload function uses the same hold key, so it makes it very fast and failproof

i’m misunderstanding the mechanics, is there a vid?

LyingDalai:

$2500 is way too much

bricked

petezoid · 2022-10-21T17:25:20.638Z

songmode:

Around USD $800–$850 is reasonable for a used Machinedrum in excellent condition.

Anything more and you’re paying for something else besides the instrument. Call that something else anything you like, ‘mojo’, ‘demand’, ‘mid-life anxiety fueled folly’, etc.

your_lamp:

I got a mk2 UW (no +drive) for $1600 on Reverb in 2020, sold it here on Elektronauts for the same price less than a year later

m0ld:

I paid 1150 for a standard Mk2

Roya:

Paid 1000 Euros a couple years ago for a MINT mk2 UW+.

I guess it was just before the prices went up…

Strutter:

I just sold my UW for 1500€

in 2013, a new non-uw mkii went for $989 … a new mnm sfx60 was $1540 new according to wkipe

petezoid · 2022-10-21T17:25:27.580Z

closencounters:

for the price of what the uw versions are going, you can get both md mk2 + a brand new octatrack for about the same price or less

yes.

today an ot mki is relatively affordable but in 5yrs it feels the like the md won’t be [already isn’t] while the ot still might?

would you say the ot has a sound? can the pick-up/read/play/neighbor machines feedback for a tone, like a mixer?

m0ld · 2022-10-21T18:22:55.371Z

petezoid:

in 2013, a new non-uw mkii went for $989 … a new mnm sfx60 was $1540 new according to wkipe

This is true! But in 2013 I worked retail and it would have taken me a year or two to save that much money… and then I’d be broke. So I’m okay paying 25% more when I can afford it responsibly.

petezoid · 2022-10-25T03:26:05.294Z

$1740 in 2008 is $2,398.69 in 2022 according to this us inflation calculator. a mint md uw mkii itb >$2.4k is…reasonable?

MusicRadar – 8 Sep 08

Elektron Machinedrum SPS-1 UW mk2 review

A powerful and flexible drum machine that sounds like nothing else on the market

JacopoAcquafresca · 2022-10-25T08:32:13.702Z

Talkin about value for discontinued products doesn’t make any sense.
In my opinion:
Do you REALLY need the peculiar lofi sound of MD or do you play experimental electronic music?
If yes, buy it. Viceversa buy Syntakt.
Do you REALLY need live-sampling or processing?
If yes buy it. Viceversa other samplers are more useful and straightforward.

petezoid · 2022-10-25T14:19:29.346Z

st is sick a master compressor fw update could bring it into md sonic territory np

petezoid · 2022-10-31T00:28:03.743Z

LyingDalai:

I really enjoy MD more when it has a dirt pedal behind

which dirt pedal(s) do you use ? i tried a friends ds-1 and a rat at a music store once and neither responded well to my casio

petezoid · 2022-10-31T01:33:16.834Z

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edit: didn’t see quote…dt+st=mduw

micabeza · 2022-10-31T02:45:16.838Z

Was this the case before song mode?

petezoid · 2022-10-31T02:57:17.028Z

and will people spring for a +drive-style factory modification when takt mkii is daisychain-able

Matthewsavant · 2022-10-31T05:30:13.638Z

I paid around $1100 for my MDUW in 2013 which I found to be a pretty fair price. Frankly I think it’s one of the absolute best drum machines ever created and an essential and iconic instrument, if I didn’t already have one I would easily spend 2k plus to get my hands on one…not to say that that’s what they should be going for but unfortunately when an instrument like this gets discontinued the second hand prices go up, I don’t really get the logic of fluctuating prices of “vintage” gear but that’s just the way it goes I guess.

Either way, my answer to just about anyone who’s asking if they should get a Machinedrum is YES absolutely! As long as you’re the kind of person that enjoys programming you’re own stuff from scratch and make electronic music then the answer is always yes regardless of genre you can fit the MD into literally anything that benefits from electronic percussion as long as it’s programmed properly. If I were forced to sell off all my gear the MDUW would be one of the few that I couldn’t live without for sure

thermionic · 2022-10-31T06:53:44.453Z

petezoid:

and will people spring for a +drive-style factory modification

If you’re talking about the Syntakt, dont think it was built with that sort of expandability in mind? One would think a delightful weirdo would’ve already found the connectors if so.