I’d want one solely for the BD. The rest would be icing on the cake. Thats a bit exagerated of course, but being able to tune and adr the sounds would be really cool. Thats what I dont like about using Tanzbär samples in my RYTM
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Pulsar or DSI Tempest
I have a RYTM mk2 and I think Pulsar and Tempest are far superior as pure analog drum machines
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Yessah, those are nice but OP said out of budget.
Mmm, Pulsar could also be a Tanzbär swap candidate for me, still an expensive unit for what it does imho.
Roger Linn is prototyping a new analog drummer if I am not mistaken!
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why is that?
i have an alpha base, despite a bug that i have with live recording, it is very reliable.
user interface is meh for user experience but IT WORKS.
the sequencer is limited compared to elektron but it works.
the sound engines are extremly versatile and punchy, not much demos showing the real potential on the internet
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I have been using my A4MK1 for drums recently, and I have been much happier than when using sample-based drums. The performance macros are time-consuming to set up, but they let you warp the sound to unrecognizable levels. Once you have them set up, you can copy them between patterns, swapping out drum patches or tweaking the modulation to suit the track. Audio over USB lets me record directly into Garageband, plus I can route other audio through the inputs. Very convenient. Once you get over the 4 voice limit (a soft limit considering patches can p-locked per step), it’s a banger.
I’ve seen them pop up for $600 locally, but you may have to be patient depending on where you live. No clue about prevailing price online. That may be a bit expensive compared to a Drumbrute, but I think it becomes cheaper once you consider everything you would have to buy to get the same result out of a Drumbrute.
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01/IV is what I’d get if I could compromise on presets.
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Maybe not what you’re looking for, but I have been itching for an analog drum machine a few times already and looking for sample packs made with some has helped me scratched that itch.
For example, Hello Samples made packs with the Analog Rytm, Tempest, Vermona DRM1 and the Jomox Xbase 09. (https://www.hellosamples.com/ look in Sound Packs/Samples/Drums)
I’m not saying it’s a good replacement, but if you have a sample based groovebox, it can be a very cheap alternative.
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I briefly owned the Impact and have played around with a regular brute. You have to be absolutely in love with the sounds for them to work for you as they aren’t very editable.
That being said, they sound good, especially over a big system, I just couldn’t see myself using that little pallet of sounds often enough to keep it/ them. If they made one that was just a bunch of channels of the fm machine from the impact I might reconsider.
Awesome sequencer. Fast and fun. But that’s not what you’re looking for.
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MFB is currently putting out more updates for the Tanzbar 2. The engine is really good, maybe if they can clean up the firmware a bit more I’d recommend it wholly.
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They sound different. Tanzbär 1 seems to be more in smooth 808 or 606 territory, while Tanzbär 2 is more about harder, punchier sounds. Many seem to prefer the sound of version 1
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Arturia DrumBrute Impact for a low cost option.
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I would suggest a4mk2 or drumatix acidlab.
If you like the tanzbär sound I can tell I have no problems with durability. It feels fragile since the beginning but everything works.
( ok, some leds its the contrary as in the manual. Best thing are the bugs that make live inst step record and knob move record simpler than in the manual)
I just dont know what effect would fit for my taste for clap and snare, pure i dont like them ( i have almost none). There is one chorus setting on my mixer I like, with erica fusion box there are rare sweetspots. ( they are there definitely because of analogue overtones)
Should make a test day with audio in of a4- overbridge and software effects. ( don‘t have a soundcard…)
I got it intstead of rytm or another a4 (2) just because it has no autosave= no worries for me.
If you are sure I‘m quite ready to sell.
Also the dominion 1, there I like (love) about 40% of the sound, miss midi to use as controller, fm i dont understand or don’t like, touchstrip is bubbly but everything works, no problem.
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I’m not sure I agree, I find the Tanzbar 2 to be the smoother cleaner one. The Tanzbar 1 (and Tanzmaus) naturally distort and are dirtier, in a wonderful way. But its true that the Tanz 2 switched up some of the analog sounds for digital, more in a 909 direction I guess. I really loved the Tanz 1 sound but I found the pallete to be more limiting. I really like the Tanzbar 2 sound but the firmware got more bloated and my demands for a sequencer have gotten more complex.
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I just read about it and listened to demos 
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I had the Vermona MK 2. I’ve given my thoughts about it in some other thread, but to summarize:
Drm 1 to 3 (no kick channel on MK 2) great full oscillators, but sloppy envelopes, and no wave reset on trigger. Doesn’t matter for lower tempos / downtempo - but IMO not good for techno.
The multi can sound musical.
Hats, snare and clap - not very flexible, but the reverb on snare and claps is good. To my ear they sound quite vintage - like the Korg and Roland offerings in the 70’s.
My favorite results from the Vermona - single cycle, or short samples of the DRM channel used as synth in the OT!
I sold the Vermona when I got a Tanzmaus, which I still have and still like a lot: The kick snare and toms aren’t very flexible, but layering them with samples on the sample tracks brings a lot of options for variation. The sample engines to my ear sound really good. IIRC, the Tanzbar doesn’t have sample tracks so there’s quite a difference.
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MFB 503 sounds pretty cool and is very compact.
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The thing about an “analog drum machine” is the inherent limitations.
So you’ve got to really love the sound.
A Brute Impact vs a Vermona DRM1 vs a Tanzmaus vs a Tempest vs an Acidlab Drumatix all sound very very different to one another.
So rather than simply narrow it down to analog, which sound/timbre are you interested in the most?
The great thing about Rytm is the sample playback engine can give you all of those sounds through analog filters/VCA/dist/compression. So while it seems very expensive compared to others, it can do so much compared to them as well. And the analog circuitry BUMPS.
Used MK1s are nearly half the price of new MK2s. And if sampling from inputs isn’t a feature you want, just load it up full of samples one time and get going with it. 
Plus you won’t find many sequencers on other analog drum machines with more pattern memories + probability + p-locks, + p-lockable FX, etc.
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Is he?
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He’s working on a new drum machine/percussion performance instrument, but I kinda doubt it’s analog.
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after researching forever and trying a few I came to the conclusion that synthesis based TR style drummachines are indeed too limiting for me soundwise (for the money and space they take). I learned I either go with samples (more sound choice) or with an actual synth, either a drumsynth (Nord drum etc) or a synth that is very suitable for drum synthesis (A4)
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