I’m afraid Elektron might be aware of that
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You don’t have to worry about dealing with 3 boxes.
I use it as a recording or sampling hub, where anything from other Elektrons or analog instruments is recorded, mangled, chopped and rearranged. I treat everything else as sample sources and the OT as the box where the song is made. So effectively I only use 1 box, and also only carry around 1 box.
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The Tonverk is priced about 50% higher than the DT2 , positioning it as a more premium offering. As such, it doesn’t make sense for it to compete directly with what is positioned as a “deluxe” platform. Additionally, the OT is built on older technology, which further differentiates it from the newer platforms.
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Sigh… what I’m saying is that it is not in their best interest to create a product that would make any other product of their current line-up obsolete
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Tenuous but technically correct.
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50%? Shop around a bit. Mine was £200 more than a DT2 brand new on day one with a Decksaver included.
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Hi, this could be an option to don’t have to carry around the other 2 boxes(TV, DT2).
But I don’t know if the fact that the OT just having 64 steps on its sequencer doesn’t limit the variability on the recordings from the TV that can run a pattern for 256 steps sequences (having the possibility for lots of variations)or DT2’s 128 steps sequencer?
I don’t know if I just explained myself well.
Thank you
It will. Your max pattern length change will be 64. You could track by ear or by watching the longest pattern length on the TV for the end of that, but Ot will
Always change at its own 64 max.
You could use DT2 as master until the update comes for Tonverk that fixes the pattern change issue, then that can be master clock.
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DT2 = $1149
Tonverk = $1599
Doesn’t change the point that Tonverk is the more premium offering.
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I understand your point. I just wanted to share the reasoning on the other side. In my case, I chose to sell the Tonverk rather than buy a DT2/OT to pair with it, so that decision doesn’t exactly align with Elektron’s best interests.
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If you get the OT, I suggest getting EZBOT’s template and use it as a super performance mixer. The sound quality is perfectly fine, no worries there. There is no replacement for what the OT can do as mixer. Good luck!
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I think there’s still a good deal of resistance to the fact that Tonverk is what it is and not what people wish it was for their own convenience/feature wishlist.
It’s the true beauty of a free market that if you don’t like something you don’t have to spend money on it.
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I‘m wondering why one would need these powerful latest machines if you then split duties again. Isn’t the whole point about them that you have less limitations and thus can do everything with 1, max 2 boxes? If I want to use DT for drums only and TV for melodies only, might as well go back to OG DT and DN and save a lot of money and headspace.
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It’s not the same thing to write a track and write a live set. By using 2 inputs with the OT, you can maximize the potential of live sampling to make perfect transitions between tracks, mixings drums and melody from one track to another.
It’s an advanced skill but smoother than just changing pattern. I think for a DJ live set it’s more convinient than have everything in single box. That being said, Tonverk has 2 pair of output and the same logic can be applied to only TV + OT.
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Ah, the classic Elektron scope creep.
One leads to two… which inevitably leads to three… Next thing you know… Fanboy status.
Or burntout on the brand and back to Ableton.
OP, this is an interesting discussion, and you can gain a ton of knowledge from the people sharing their thoughts.
Just try not to overthink it. OT calls to everyone who is into Elektron at some point. I’d recomend that you just buy it and try it.
As you will read, few people get it on the first try. A lot of people buy it and try it a few times before it either sticks, or doesn’t.
It’s all part of the process. Even if it doesn’t work for you, you’re sure to learn a lot.
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Sure, I get that. I just wonder why one would need/use DT II and TV if you always have OT hooked up to them anyways. For me, OG DT+DN into OT makes a lot more sense in that case. If you already go for three machines with dedicated tasks, I‘d try to choose machines that are as simple and limited as possible.
Meaning that on the flipside, if I already had DT II and TV, I would try to just use these and forget about OT.
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Personally I’d miss having access to polyphonic sounds other than FM in that setup. I guess that’s the beauty of TV, it can sound like anything.
There is no right answer though, it’s up to the artist to shape their own world 
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Tonverk is ticking all the boxes for me. I confess I’ve hardly used my other stuff since I got it. I come to thinking it’s better to sweat one or two devices fully over using many just a little.
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I currently have all 3 and I’m letting the OT go. It’s just different enough that I struggle to navigate after focusing on the others and then come back to it.
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Some folks really like samplers.
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