Most pop nowadays has 4/4, so looks like techno is pretty big haha
There are so big differences in electronic music. I love and live it, but there are genres I just can’t stand hearing. Others I just can’t stop 
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…good point, adam…the dj is doing all the the trick, end of the day…
but never been a dj…but produced a lot of this…
and last time i performed live techno, is more than decade ago…
but…i’ll give it a try this summer again…bringing back metal power chords to join the dotzball game now…
and we’re in year 31 after techno NOW…so yesh, it’s lauli’s argument here that counts…
guitar music is somehow all rock music to nail it down to it’s smallest common ground factor…
same with four to the flour kiks in teschnoteknotechnotekkno…
that’s why australia is calling it all…doof music…doof doof doof doof…there we go…
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So what we’re saying is that calling my track techno is a lot like calling Nickelback rock music, which although technically true, should not be pointed out on the internet for fear of enraging Led Zeppelin fans.
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Plenty of 4/4 autechre and squarepusher that I wouldn’t label as techno.
So yea, I think you can get away with other terms too.
The term “Experimental” never hurt anyone’s feelings. 
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4/4 track that fit in no genre. Just do what the fuck you want!
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and so did many many members of this forum 
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Proper techno
And that’s why I hate the term techno
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Absofuckinglutely it is.
‘hyper hyper’ vs ‘Follow the leader leader’
Two of techno’s greatest ever lyrical motifs.
It’s a good tune and you’ve clearly got a talent for writing this sort of stuff, whatever it would be categorised as. I’m in the ‘if it’s what comes naturally go with the flow’ camp. I don’t think the drum programming is lazy either; I find less is more with 4/4 beats and by that I mean dropping beats here and there, subtle stuff like conditional trigs etc are what make a good 4/4 beat for me.
I can only speak for myself but I had a similar dilemma a few years ago when I couldn’t stop falling into writing the same almost formulaic songs and I had to step back from writing for a bit to almost break the cycle. I got back into writing again when I got into Elektron because it make me work in a different way. That said the stuff I’m doing now isn’t a million miles away, I’ve just learned to listen more and hone selectively rather than just jump to sticking another part in the mix. Point is I’m still doing what comes naturally if that makes sense?
Doesn’t stop you experimenting but baby and bath water springs to mind.
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Eric B and Rakim👍
Much prefer this version mind you…
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the belleville three and underground resistance going full drexciya here…
(hardly trying not to get into that richie-hawtin-cultural-appropiation-thing)
//edit:
sorry for off-topic: imho Elektron-sequencers are almost forcing one to go into that 4/4-direction. getting “out of the grid” but not ending up in total pseudo-random-square was one of the biggest challenges for me, constantly trying to get rid of what these machines are actually famous for. i think that it needs a shitload of time and focus to master this and literally translate what is in your mind into sound.
Eric who ?
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Today there’s so subgenre it’s just ridiculous. There’s few artist making thing like your “Remix for Sam” basically it’s trance melody and sound-design with techno drum elements and sample on a house tempo. Remind me some connaisseur recordings (like Patrick Chardronnet) and most likely some guys from Tel Aviv like Guy J
It’s not a bad thing.
So I’m not really much of a techno fan. Don’t get me wrong, Aphex twin is my daddy and all that but I just never fully got into “techno” as a genre (…) Or should I just accept what I’m best at and get on with it, regardless of whether or not I enjoy the outcome*?
I understand what you mean and IF we consider “a lot of artists” love electronic music but clearly they are incapable to make Detroit Techno… should you be ashamed when you make radio calibrated music (or trancey stuff) and make a living with it ? NO
But if you make a living from music that takes you in the guts and that you love deeply it is even better
So not really much of a techno fan and you make this.
You have only three options :
- Forcing you to put a frame that moves you away from (obviously) bad habits (for you meaning what you wrote) that you have taken
- Can be reconsider your music and take more time to get away from the fast composing side (changing tempo and not starting every time from 120bpm, try more exotic like half beat) Change scale and make major because minor will also lead to the same path… Maybe construct your track more broken and when you feel you go hypnotic stop! and try to take another path.
- Continu to make this music genre and embrace it
For instance there’s one “Trancey” track I absolutely love is this one (the border between trance and techno is very narrow but Techno is not really Dreamy or you Goa, Gaia etc…) :
Few tracks Trancey that I liked
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xM51W3EBKgo
But for sure melodic, hypnotic, lost, dreamer /// can lead (if dancefloor so 4/4 or very trippy rhythmically) obviously to techno and trance
Of fk I’m so in LOVE with this TREVINO totally remind me Latour “Blue”**
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjqAHPu097c
Guy J reference I’m tiling about in the beginning of my reply
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sj2v8Iq2aKE
PS: Marmion “Schöneberg” was classify and compiled as techno. there’s a thin border and it’s Trance then. But as I said not a bad thing.
& what about lunatic asylum the meltdown live
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XBXqjKcXlc
on the border to trance
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Techno. You’ll know it when you hear it. Otherwise, it’s all just electronic based dance music.
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Honestly I dont pay any attention to ‘genre’ and I dont care how others judge my music.
I think it is a good discussion to have with yourself, not sure about arguing…
When I played drums in my early 20s I played in punk bands, yet I really wasnt into punk at all. When I made ‘bass music’ in the 2010s, I was kinda into it, but it bores the shit out of me now.
Now i just make what I make, Im well and truly over trying to get gigs, and get known, and get released etc. I just make music to please myself, exorcise my own demons and all that. What comes out at the end, isnt really important. Sometimes its good, sometimes its shite.
If you enjoy the process and want to do it again, keep doing it. It is more valuable to you than you realise. Your opinion about your own music isnt the point of making music is it?
If you dont like techno, ( what ever techno means for you) but feel good making it, dont over think it, just do what you do.
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But I you’re not ashamed I mean it’s a completely different topic.
If you’re ashamed and don’t want necessarily make things closest to what you listening to… then …
I mean I would change or try to change what I do… (I speaking for me so Subjective Alert here)
If I’m ashamed
If I dislike what I do
if music is more than important, like vital and the music I fully love is not the music I produce
if you think career in a particular genre and not produce to target (didn’t like this one but may be relevant)
Because that’s just music, anyway.
Take pleasure in making music would be to me the only important thing
And you probably AUTO REPLY :
Whether or not I enjoy the music I make, I always enjoy the process of making it, otherwise it probably wouldn’t get made.
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Whatever sells. If it pays for the equipment you made it on, your on to a good thing.
I’ve played in traditional jazz, rock jazz, and post punk industrial goth bands. Everything I make now sounds like Disco. WTF?
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A good question/challenge might be to ask yourself if you like the music you’re making? If yes, then you’re good to go.
I’ve made a lot of tracks that I think are fine, good, interesting maybe, but in the end don’t ring true to the music in my head, so I need to slow down sometimes and really think through what I’m hoping to accomplish instead of banging out stuff because it’s easy and fun. Takes discipline and I’m not always up for it.
Then again, I also enjoy making a nutty patch on the eurorack and following it down the rabbithole. It’s supposed to be fun, after all 
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