I am really upset

Zymos · 2015-03-08T16:58:13.000Z

Just a wild ass guess, but…user error?

Alex · 2015-03-08T17:26:59.000Z

the biggest problem with Elektron boxes becoming more mainstream (mostly with RYTM) is that you get idiots like the person that started this thread. Unless it’s a joke?

if it’s too complicated for your small brain sell it & use your iPad to create music. end of story.

Morons.

I saw the same thing happen with Apple… now you have all these kids buying their parents and their parents’ parents iPhones & iPads thinking it would be cool if they had them… some people should just not own technology simply because it’s not for them.

Point in case: OP.

OP,

Elektron intentionally limits its gear because it strongly believes in the credo that limitation yields creativity. That’s a major philosophical point behind Elektron gear. Very open-ended in some ways but very closed off in other ways… kind of like Apple.

Use an MPC or something else if your brain is too small for a RYTM…

BTW, Overbridge is a BONUS feature at best. it wasn’t announced at the inception of RYTM… kind of just extra dessert. So, quiet down about Overbridge taking longer than normal… this is a very small company. no one forced you to buy the RYTM, you sound so unFingGrateful

aye aye aye

Caelestis · 2015-03-08T17:34:00.000Z

""Alex"":

the biggest problem with Elektron boxes becoming more mainstream (mostly with RYTM) is that you get idiots like the person that started this thread. Unless it’s a joke?

if it’s too complicated for your small brain sell it & use your iPad to create music. end of story.

Morons.

I saw the same thing happen with Apple… now you have all these kids buying their parents and their parents’ parents iPhones & iPads thinking it would be cool if they had them… some people should just not own technology simply because it’s not for them.

Point in case: OP.

OP,

Elektron intentionally limits its gear because it strongly believes in the credo that limitation yields creativity. That’s a major philosophical point behind Elektron gear. Very open-ended in some ways but very closed off in other ways… kind of like Apple.

Use an MPC or something else if your brain is too small for a RYTM…

aye aye aye

Relax?

Alex · 2015-03-08T17:41:37.000Z

I think the two of you missed my point completely.

I use Strom & it’s great.

This has nothing to do with Strom.

FreeFall · 2015-03-08T17:44:00.000Z

You know the minute you get rid of your Rytm is the moment Elektron will release Overbridge, and some mind blowing huge update. They’re known to do that type of stuff, and really, they never disappoint.

The funny thing is that the OP is so upset over how samples playback (or don’t apparently) in what is first and foremost an ANALOGUE DRUM MACHINE. As if that whole concept is secondary to it playing samples. It’s like saying that you’re going to get rid of your oven because the little timer clock sucks!

Zymos · 2015-03-08T17:46:03.000Z

Though I agree that infinite possibilities can hamper productivity, I really don’t buy “we put a bunch of limitations in this gear on purpose, to force you to be more creative”…

bandersong · 2015-03-08T17:55:13.000Z

" I paid MONEY for this guitar and it is not strumming the way I want it to, it’s garbage I shouldn’t have to learn anything for an instrument."

Alex · 2015-03-08T18:15:37.000Z

""Baddcr"":

No we got it - you think your brain is bigger than iPad users and MPC users because you use a RYTM!

Hint: it’s not an attractive quality

Hint: RYTM is insanely easy to use compared to the the other Elektron boxes. MPCs are just incredibly simple compared to a RYTM…
I’m not being condescending, if that’s what you’re trying to get to? all I’m saying is quit whining and read the manual. it’s very simple.

T2official · 2015-03-08T18:20:13.000Z

T2official · 2015-03-08T18:33:06.000Z

""Baddcr"":

T2!

It’s my go-to post when arguments (shit-winds) arise. haha!

T2official · 2015-03-08T18:37:15.000Z

TheRocketeer · 2015-03-08T22:52:41.000Z

""Orwell"":

everyone cant deny there are loads of ARs for sale on the used market and it now looks like the AR is dividing opinion a lot like the OT
mines gone…thank… freaking god
MDUW+ back in my hands and everything is fine and dandy again

There are 0 used Rytms on the US ebay market and 0 used Rytms on the southern California craigslist.

barto · 2015-03-08T23:10:38.000Z

why is this even in the Rytm section

stutech · 2015-03-09T08:51:55.000Z

My thoughts as well. RTFM and move along?

G0n35y · 2015-03-09T13:10:19.000Z

This was a piss take wasn’t it?!

I kind of feel sorry for Elektron at times. They are damned if they do and damned if they don’t far too often. Brought it on themselves a bit with the Overbridge announcement over a year ago but only a tool would have bought a Rytm or AK/A4 primarily in aniticpation for OB.

Padevil · 2015-03-09T13:22:53.000Z

Some answers on this thread kind of remind me of the times i was in a games forum , and dudes were fiercely arguing over Sony x Nintendo… PSxN64

avantronica · 2015-03-09T14:32:28.000Z

""t"":

^genius. sorry to flow against the let’s go easy on the OP stuff, but this sums it up for me, well sorta, because it’s clearly not so fucking difficult for everyone else to load and use samples, so it tends to sound like frankly irritating expectation issues or user error - that’s fine, but don’t expect to win a charm offensive to get the advice available here by opening up with such a negative and naive whinge(it’s ill-judged at best, esp judging by the response it provoked)
yeah, the RYTM’s not for everyone, thank fuck for that, that’s cool, but be wary of pointing the finger when the issue may be closer to home, there are a tonne of things it could do slightly better and overbridge has little cache for me so maybe i don’t get the anger

besides, it’s not even clear what the issue is

i also don’t think the limitations to force creativity argument stacks up, i think they just fins a balance between flexibility, ui and horsepower and probably try to keep the products fairly focussed on core stuff, the price of throwing everything in the mix is that it becomes unattractive to master, getting a balance is how i think they limit things, and you have to accept and respect that - sure i often reach for a second lfo or lfo destination, but it ain’t there and it helps it be focussed as a drum machine

samples are constrained, but it ain’t rocket science either, just learn the machine and work around perceived limitations

i for one share the (unfair?) disdain thrown on the ipad, sure it’s great as a multitouch control surface (USP), but it is as soul-less an experience as i can imagine otherwise, irrespective of the shared dna across say the arturia SEM on OSX iOS, unless your iPad is hooked up 24/7 to a studio it’s just a faff and something i have a great deal of bother engaging with, so if there’s a hierarchy - it sits underneath knobby gear and a more manageable computer environment (sans touch, to which iPad can be added) - but it probably is an improvement on some gear with an awful hidden interface

not for me either, but that’s not to say it’s not for everyone else
there are a few great apps which exploit its strengths mind you

MK7 · 2015-03-09T22:02:58.000Z

A lot of discussion going on in this thread, but where’s the OP?

bluewolfse7en · 2015-03-09T22:19:44.000Z

Good point, tiresome thread.
I’m really horny! Think I’ll start a thread. Quick send more blondes

Muddler · 2015-03-10T01:12:53.000Z

no one has told him he should recalibrate yet.

which, btw, I want to try. Will it kill my work/samples? should I do a sysex backup first (i haven’t done that even once yet, 0.o). Can someone tell me how to recalibrate as well. Is it in the manual?