Hydrasynth from ASM

Just got my desktop unit this week :slight_smile:

Setting up studio after a full tear down to have this thing front and centre

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I think you could argue for the Local being a temp change, but I canā€™t see much justification for the rest. That said, if thereā€™s really an argument for any of them, make it optional? - on/off-until reset/off

Iā€™m having to turn off Local and turn on Tempo Lock on much more often than Iā€™d have to change them if they survived a power cycle.

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Found a few other quirks. @Jukka can you check and see if itā€™s just me/my setup?

1 - I canā€™t get Arp to transmit midi - itā€™s set to transmit in the settings, but doesnā€™t send via USB or the din port.

2 - Midi through doesnā€™t relay USB midi in, only midi received on the Midi in din.

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Small slice of insulating tape should do the trick :slight_smile:

I donā€™t have it in me to deface gear :slight_smile:
And it should be an option :wink:

I said removable tape over the button label, not a hammer :joy:

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ā€¦canā€™t do it. Too sloppy lookinā€™ :wink:

The manual says this about the MIDI Thru DIN connector:
ā€¢ MIDI Thru passes the data that arrives at the physical MIDI In jack to another MIDI device.

Thereā€™s a very good reason to not transmit USB MIDI on to DIN MIDI. Youā€™d could easily swamp it.
USB 2.0 is potentially over 15,000 times faster than DIN MIDI (480,000 Kbits/sec vs 31.25 Kbits/sec). Sure there is potentially other data on a shared USB connection, and there is a small amount of overhead, but itā€™s still fire hose vs garden hose.

(NOTE ā€“ a little off-topic: Despite USBā€™s speed it is still susceptible to latency and jitter beyond what those data rates would indicate. Itā€™s a common misunderstanding that data rate and latency correspond one to one. They donā€™t !)

So i think your observation of USB MIDI not being passed to DIN MIDI THRU is a feature, it makes total sense for it to be this way. Itā€™s what iā€™d want to happen.
There are other ways to move MIDI around other than using a HSā€™s MIDI THRU. (I understand the reason for MIDI THRU, but i donā€™t think iā€™ve used it in forever ā€“ itā€™s more a legacy thing to me.)



As to ARPs not being transmitted over MIDI ā€“ it works for me, but iā€™ve only looked at the USB MIDI out though. (I donā€™t have internet where my HSK is, so it will take a day or so to see if i can diagnose your issue.) In fact the HSK generates some pretty amazing MIDI sometimes ā€“ itā€™s good to be recording it.

I donā€™t know if this is relevant to your question but the manual says this about Chords:
ā€¢ The chord is not transmitted over USB or MIDI. A slaved device will only receive the played note.

phaelam (off-topic) --

The whole world (except me and auditorycanvas) has conspired to get YOU.

My absolute favorite keyboard, a nearly fifteen year old Yamaha digital piano, has this annoyingly large two digit tempo number, bright enough to read by. I have a very special piece of cardboard cut from my favorite raisin box, that works wonders keeping that tempo display covered. Not to waste anything i use the rest of the raisin box to make a tool to clean the keybed ā€“ and because of that the keyboard amazingly still works perfectly.

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On MPC Live you can disable Tap Tempo lightā€¦a samplerā€¦drum machine.

Just sayinā€™

Interesting about passing midi through from usb midi to Din. It works well on the Argon8.

Wonder why I canā€™t transmit arp notes. Sending midi is working for me, just not the arp.

this is all making me so excited to order mine next weekā€¦
(gotta wait for one more paycheck and i hit ā€œorderā€)

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Mine has been returned.
I took a bath on it. Lost approx $800 Canadian on shipping and customs.
$800 for a three week rental basically.

I could have gotten a summit at this point. :frowning:

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Another Sonic Talk #605. Three more guests and more discussion of NAMM.

Video to look for: Nick announced that the Fun Friday that comes out tomorrow will feature music done with Radikal Technologies Delta CEP A and the Hydrasynth! Not sure if it is the Keys or Desktop. Hmmm, what will the mix of swarm oscillator with the HS sound like?

Some detail of impressions about the Hydrasynth from the discussion:

BT: ā€œI would call this NAMM the year of the Wavetable Synthesizer.ā€ ā€œā€¦ wavetable synthesis is such an old kind of synthesis modality, and people are actually inventing these new kinds of variants of it, that are really interesting. You mention the Hydrasynth. I have to say that an instrument hasnā€™t blown me away like that in a long, long period of time. That is a remarkable sounding instrument. And I just got mine too ā€¦ā€ ā€œIt just came, and Iā€™m frickinā€™ blown away by that thing.ā€

Chicky Reeves: ā€œAnd the Hydrasynth, it sounds amazing.ā€

Support got back to me via Facebook about the Local control setting not being retained on power cycleā€¦

"Hi,

Yes, this is by design. It might seem surprising but Local control being inadvertently turned OFF, generates more product returns than almost any other issue. Many customers will turn it off by accident and then think the unit is broken.

Best regards,

Support"

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In an ideal world there would be a dedicated local on/off button but since there isnā€™t, Iā€™m not sure this dumbing down to accommodate sloppy operation is the best way. Maybe thereā€™s room on the screen for an icon that reminds people the value is set, as people seem to understand little pictures.

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Last saved patch should be doable though

It is doable but without a battery it means lots and lots of writes to the flash, reducing its lifespan.

I work in UX / product design and I can assure you that they really do not. They donā€™t read words either, so :man_shrugging:

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Fair enough. Dumbing down it is then.

The MIDI spec recommends that Local Control should be switchable from the front panel.

It also recommends that instruments should power-up in Local On mode, presumably for the reason stated by ASM:

Yes, this is by design. It might seem surprising but Local control being inadvertently turned OFF, generates more product returns than almost any other issue. Many customers will turn it off by accident and then think the unit is broken.

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