Hydrasynth from ASM

I played around with this some. I’d expect OFF to mean more too, and would like different behavior.

It’s hard for ASM to give a change to this any priority. It doesn’t constitute a “bug”, it’s more an improvement in behavior. And there is a work around.

Not sure if there is something in the implementation of the morphing in wavescan that may relate. There are only ten intermediate waves that you can get to, though so far I’ve never found it steppy.

I found another way to stretch the wavescan out is by using two oscillators together. In your example, you can set the slots on Osc1 to Sine, Sine, Square, and the slots on Osc2 to Sine, Square, Square and then mix the two oscillators equally. This doubles the area of transition, but doesn’t stretch it out to all eight. And you use up an oscillator to do this, so not a great solution.

I like your idea of changing how the scale of the modulation controls work from context, be it ModMatrix or Macros. Perhaps that might be better handled somehow with a software patch editor. Hopefully someday there will be such a thing. I think it was part of the original vision.

Putting my Sherlock Holmes hat on for a minute, I remember a cryptic post from you about the perfect sampler being announced in September, now this…
Makes one wonder…

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It’s all a fantasy in my mind, with hopefully as much reality as i can imagine.

I’m definitely thinking of these as wishlist upgrades rather than bug fixes, similar to how we got things like ‘direct to destination parameter’ linking back at 1.2 (totally guessing at this point). I’m pretty happy overall with how the synth operates, but also love it when mfg’s drop cool new updates to UI or soundshaping

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Over in the Hydrasynth Tips and Tricks thread apeshake found a bug when combining Glide with Keytrack set to something other than 100% in an oscillator.

( I linked to the first of a series of posts. )

Why i bring this up is he wrote up the bug report and sent it to ASM and rather quickly got a response. I think you should do the same with what you found and your thoughts.

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There is a new Hydrasynth portable in the wings.

I see there is a Hydrasynth Deluxe now too.

So far it looks just like an HSK with two more octaves.

But i wonder if this also means new firmware ? Perhaps a split mode could include features like AdamJay was asking for, and a split keyboard when used as a controller too.

Could the Deluxe be multi-timbral ? Bi-timbrality would be very nice.

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It is 16 voice bi-timbral

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this is really interesting stuff - i have to say I was disappointed with the way the hydrasynth handles wavetables because of these things - I don’t like that the wavetable position always scans through all 8 slots even though up to 6 of them may be empty, and also I do find the scanning to be quite steppy when scanning between 2 extremes… Only 10 states between slots would explain that

Fortunately it’s not the wavetable synthesis that attracted me to the hydrasynth so i’m able to overlook this stuff but I was surprised that the wavetable side of things didn’t live up to the rest of the features…

I would also appreciate appropriate value ranges in the mod matrix but more than that i’d love to see more options in the matrix like oscillator as a mod source (I know, this is probably too much to ask for but i can dream) but also mod processors like lag/slew or quantize etc. Not sure how this stuff would be implemented tbh but you never know (and these things are maybe more feasable than adding full audio-rate modulation options).

So I guess what I want is a modular rack with all the modules that make up the hydrasynth (so, about £10k and an extra room in the house for it :roll_eyes:)

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So let me try to summarize for everyone else reading along here. ( Somebody correct me if i get something wrong. )

In the wavetable, any wave set to “OFF” is just a hole that gets eliminated with everything above it squeezed to the left. This hole means there is no longer eight waves in the wavetable, so the wave highest up, #8 gets replicated as many times as necessary to fill the top values on the table. There are always eight waves in a wavetable.

I don’t at the moment see much use for tables with “OFF” in them. Does anyone else ?

Something else though that got brought to front of mind while playing around with braken’s Wavescan issue. In addition to “OFF”, there is also the wave “Silence”.

“Silence”, is a wave that does not sound ( another solution to the John Cage 4’ 33" question i played with elsewhere ), and is a useful filler in wavetables.

Moving from “Silence” to Wave and then back is a crescendo ( or decrescendo ) of that Wave, or an envelope depending on how it’s used. You can also use “Silence” in a wavetable, if you want a way to have a rest, for instance with a Stepped LFO sequence, smoothed or not. You can also use the “Silence” placed on one side of the Wavetable, to create an envelope, if you modulate the Wavescan with an LFO or Envelope.

I’ve found putting two or more “Silences” next to one another useful.

This drove me insane when I had one, I struggled with modulation amounts more than I should have. Together with my inability to program heavy basses with a clean bottom end led me to sell it.
It’s a shame because you can feel this is a beast of a machine, just not in my hands.

Getting me the deluxe as soon as possible!

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You need another one. :stuck_out_tongue:

If you want clean basses and other less wave tabley sounds, you just need to approach it more like a more traditional subtractive synth. Always keep that sine wave handy too.

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still can’t decide HSK or HSD :confused:

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Does having two more choices help or hurt ?

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Lol help actually! I’m closer to the desktop version now

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The Deluxe looks cool. I like it when they leave room on top for modules and other things.

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The Hydrasynth is battery powered, neat, too bad I know that if I gave it a second chance I would still struggle making sense of how the modulation amount works…
Why can’t I have 0/128 for values that are 0/128?

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Time to merge the two Hydrasynth threads?