How to properly prepare an Ableton Live set in a short amount of time?

Hey everyone! Maybe this is not the most typical question here.

I’ve been making electronic music for about 12 years, but I’ve never really been interested in DJing. So whenever I perform, it’s usually a live set. I normally do everything straight from Ableton and don’t bring hardware synths to gigs. Although, to be fair, I don’t own that much hardware anyway — just an Arturia DrumBrute and a Behringer Crave.

A few days ago I was unexpectedly offered a last-minute slot at one of the biggest and coolest underground clubs in my city. On top of that, the live set is going to be filmed for a broadcast.

The problem is that I’ve been spending the last couple of months finalizing a new 12-track album, and I basically have zero preparation for this live set. The offer really came out of nowhere.

So here’s my question: what would you do if you had one week of evenings to prepare a one-hour live set?

I have a bit of a mental dilemma.

Option 1: Take all the tracks from the album, put them into one Ableton project and work on transitions between them. This seems like the easiest solution, but I’m wondering whether the video could potentially get blocked once the album is officially released. Also, is it even a good idea to tease the album before its release?

Option 2: Make 8 tracks of generative blips and bloops and perform them together with a live drum machine. This also seems relatively straightforward, but:

  1. I’ve never done anything like this before.
  2. I’m afraid it might end up sounding like something I put together at the last minute.

Option 3: Go in a completely different direction and make something ambient/noise-oriented. But I’m worried that this might be disappointing in the context of my usual style.

Option 4: Download 5–6 sample/loop packs that fit my style, pick 4–5 bass loops, 6–7 leads, 10–20 percussion sounds in compatible keys, and basically improvise by switching between them while playing the drum machine live.

Some important context:

I have a Push 2, and stylistically I play minimal/raw techno. Not the modern, super-heavy kind, though — something closer to outsider house and minimal techno.

Sometimes I jokingly call my style “outsider techno” haha.

Anyway, that’s basically it. I hope it makes at least some sense. Feel free to ask questions if you need more context.

I’d really love to hear about your experience and how you would approach this.

Thanks everyone in advance, and sorry for the machine translation!

Cut 8 bar loops from all your songs. ‘Stems’ if you like

Use midi controller of choice.

Jam out on the loops, launched from midi controller, fiddle with efffects etc.

Done.

Dont over think it. Dont prepare brand new material. Use what you already have. Keep it super simple.

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Just loops from done tracks?
And make some transitions?
The only problem that I forgot to mention that the album is from 120 to 145 BPM on different tracks…

Maybe add FX-Racks for transitions and to spice things up, Download 3 Free FX Presets for Live 11!

As stated above cut loops out of the album, maybe automate it to play loop after loop until you reach a point where you can “jam”… lets say Intro to jam point is automated… then looping…
This helps to not always have a need to trigger the next loop lane manualy.

Make the loops in the complex mode from ableton so tempo changes dont affect the sound quality. But 120-145 seems doable.

Make a Plan what to do and when you have to be finished (after you have set on a way to do it):

  1. Cut your tracks to loops
  2. Arrange the tracks
  3. Maybe Automate it
  4. Maybe add FX Racks and map it to a controller
  5. PEAK END RULE

Peak end rule means:
People tend to judge an experience primarily based on two moments:
-The peak (the most intense point—whether highly positive or highly negative)
-The end (how the experience concluded)

So maybe start your set from the END and work on the PEAK , and just then think about the in betweens and the start. As people will remember END and PEAK the most.

If you have LIVE GEAR. Maybe make it so your drums are set, like drumkits are already finished, it’s not really recommended to start tuning your kickdrum in a liveset :slight_smile: . But its easier to jam on a working drumkit. Or on pre-set sounds. Or maybe cut out parts of your album (lead/bass) and jam with the drums on a machine?

When working with hardware / groovbox stuff, always only add or remove one element (there are of course exceptions to this).

So thats my input, now for my questions:

How long is your slot?
How long is your Album?
Which drummachine could you bring?
Have you thought about a hybrid setup… taking parts of your songs (bass,leads,percussion) and add a drummachine to twist some knobs? - Ableton+Hardware?

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clyph X, you could also put BPM on the scene slot, to accomodate different bpm, use a seperate track for percussion , and these additional percussions to transition to the next song. (maybe also have a atmosphere transition once in a while.)

Plan one evening for setup, the rest for rehearsal, looking how much you can squeeze - if you need a lot of cutting out your tracks plan 2 evenings, the rest for rehearsal. Beeing fast is more wise than accurate. You said its raw techno anyways, make it raw.

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I forgot to mention, have fun!

The crowd and me had the biggest fun when I stumbled and improvised thinking it was shit only to have people coming at me after to give props…

As long as you have fun and radiate that energy you are on a good way (so look up from time to time and send a smile and dance and have fun with the people you are performing for)

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The slot is 1hr
The album is 48 minutes long
I have Arturia drumbrute impact

…first of all…forget about any copyright claim clashing…if it’s ALL UR SONIC STUFF anyways, u can’t be bothered…by nothing and nobody.
and of course it’s no bad thing at all, if that gig is kinda promoting any upcoming release of urs…

second thing to consider…imagine the time slot u have to cover…
what will be the expectation from the audience for that dedicated venue, ur particular time slot, who’s playing BEFORE U, what will come AFTER U…

no person and no camera will read ur screen en detail…so even if ur project file contains nothing but full fledged finished stereo stems of ur current/upcoming album, ur totally safe to just hit play and let it all go…

most basic main thing to consider…have u any experience already on how ur tracks sound/translate on big soundsystems?
if not, u might wanna stem out kik, snare/clap, hihats, main basslines and one for all the rest in individual single stems, so u can readjust mix and eq’ing balances on the fly…

since ur NOT A DJ…don’t try to be one!
it’s totally ok if ur content get’s astray all over the places in bpm counts…forget about smooth transitions each single time…think also in hard contrasts from time to time…totally ok…since u are a live act…not a dj…

since it’s unsexy and boooooring to just watch ur screen like reading ur mails on stage u better have some knobs to twiddle…so some midi controler should be with on that stage…does not matter what u control with it…some reverb und delay burst here and there and a filter closing in or opening up from time to time will totally do…and worx wonders if used carefully, no matter which kind of signal ur treating…

since u can never be sure what kind of sonic kink was playing before u start to vibrate the room, it’s always a good idea to have at least 40 seconds of intro, that has no tempo recognition pattern involved, so u can flush all expectations of the audience free again to get some neutral distance from whatever ruled the room before and to open up clearly for ur kinda flavour now and next to come…

and most important rule for everybody perfroming…TAKE UR TIME!
and enjoy the ride…if u don’t have fun, it will be hard for any audience to relate in any way and to enjoy their moment WITH U…

BUT…be prepared…rehearse ur set at least once upfront…including setting up!!!..and take care of the overall slot time u have…no promoter on this planet likes it, if u play too long and fugg up all their logistics and the curation of their care/thoughtfully, sometimes even holy time slot schedule…

if u can’t totally fill ur slot…just say it…it’s totally ok if ur live set ends under 60 minutes…usually it’s best to perform live with at least one minute of intro, the weirder the better aslong there are no traces of any bpm count and then u end it all uberobviously on purpose after 45 minutes…take a little applause and have one last banger ready to finish it ALL off…

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+1 on reeloys post

Regarding the time slot, yeah time of “night” matters. If you start an ambient album on peak time in the venue expecting Techno, it will be a bummer and people will leave the floor. (but i expect that is not the case here)

As reeloy stated, it doesn’t matter really if you just hit play on a laptop… but yeah… I wouldn’t like to do just that and stand there… doing… i don’t know what i would do…

The Drumbrute Impact is an excellent tool for jamming out over an album.

Does make sense to export all tracks like drums/perc track and melodic/bass track and crate a mixer like template of 4 tracks. A1 for drums/A2 for bass and melody for one track than crate the same thing for the second track like B1/B2 and operating with these 4 tracks with push?
I’m thinking does it make sense to loop separately intros of each track and start playing them while the previous track is finishing.
Then if I will have enough time try to make another 2 tracks with Ableton looper or simpler for some kind of transitions. Ambient of perc like.
Obviously when exporting stems find a good compromise in tempo and keep the entire set in one BPM.
Or I’m overthinking it?

No reason to keep it all one bpm , just nudge it up over your set to end on a high ? If it’s ableton I’d guess it’s all being warped loops

If no one has ever heard your music then they won’t know if it’s right or wrong , they’ll likely just expect what normally happens in a track - intro etc , bits getting muted , fx sends and filter sweeps on a mixer . They won’t know if your working hard or just pressed play on a pre mixed 1 hr wav file unless they see your screen or actually see / hear the differences while you turn knobs
Many won’t care , they’re drunk and just want to dance

Simplify things down to a few stems and work out how to build the set via bpm / key .
If you have a drum machine just use it for additional fills / snare rolls etc ?

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This is the best advice I read in a long time

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…yes…u do…but… just slightly…

no panic…most important thing on a club sound system is…to nail the lowest octave…
no matter what bpm, no matter what beat…if ur kik AND ur baseline don’t rule the room as the foundation of all vibration, no crowd will feel ur set…
it’s one of the best feelings if ur sound can shake the floor in perfect resonance…
and it’s pretty depressing if ur sound get’s totally lost in translation, because it’s all punchless mumble jumble…

so, if ur mixes have not been prooven to nail their lowest octave yet, u better make sure KIK and BASS, each on their own, are always in reach for SINGLE adjustment…in LEVEL and EQ…
rest of the drums can be one stem…so can be all the rest…
but maaabee, u wanna pick one or two lead elements also as an xtra stem track…

bounce all those stems…from each of ur tracks…that same collection of stems…
that results in five full stem tracks for each original track, each on full same length, so all original arrangements will remain, if u play all five stems at once…

now drop them in the clip view…define a vertical row where all ur kik stems will run…
same for drums, bass, harmony, lead…

give each track an eq plugin and define some fx sends of ur liking…for later abuse…

now u have in each horizontal row five clips that make a whole track if u hit play in that row…

copy a few empty rows between each of them…
and now start picking cherry spots of ur tracks, single them out to copy them as individual loops…

and see where it takes u…curate/design UR set…
endless options for all sorts of transitions are waiting to be discovered…
don’t forget…a transition does not always have to be classic smoothness…
warp the hell out of ur cherry picks…
and no, it’s NO MUST to stick to one tempo or climb up CONTINOUSLY in bpm count…
u can predefine tempo jumps for those scene rows…dare to use it.
ur NOT another dj…u do u…

put a nice and gentle brickwall limiter on the master…if u have a push, hey there is ur controler…focus on those five rows…and what some fx sends can do…
adding drumbrute to the cake on such short notice?..yeah, nice idea…but keep that for next time…