How has (not) doing drugs

the_dreammer · 2015-03-09T15:54:16.000Z

I worked with junkies and homeless people… for some drugs change their lives in ways that was beyond what I ever expected, in a bad way…

like most things in life, in moderation… it can give you “fake joy” which in a way, is just as fun as real joy… but if you start to depend on this faking yourself… your bound to be in trouble…

same goes for alcohol (which is a hard-drug in my view)…

I had plenty of fakeness in my life… and I really enjoyed it… but the older I get, well… the more reality I want. and I will just have the happy memories of not overdoing it… but just doing it.

I wouldn’t advice somebody who is in a big mess… to start taking drugs.
I wouldn’t advice the weak of mind to start taking drugs.
I wouldn’t advice kids to do it to be cool
I wouldn’t advice those who want to take drugs, cause other musicians do.

I did take my mom to my favourite coffeeshop once… and she really enjoyed the experience… she never believed me when I said my fav hangout was filled with normal people, until I did… I took my ex-mother-inlaw to a coffeeshop once… and she got so crazy and overdid it (claiming she was a flowerchild) and she ended up pissing in the streets… her daughter was so embarrassed…

So can it be fun… hell yeah… can it be a trip to hell… ofcouse it can.
depends on the person and the situation…

would my life be different without ever taking drugs… probably. but I can not guarantee it would have been that much better…

so lets keep it at: the better you stand in your own shoes, and the less you doubt yourself and u understand the values of moderation. the less it can hurt you… but then again… that goes for most things in life…

be strong, and if you cant be strong… don’t look for fake things… look for reality…

<edited, I saw I forgot a NOT somewhere… oops… does make a difference…>

smais · 2015-03-09T16:12:14.000Z

Zymos · 2015-03-09T18:00:30.000Z

If “dry fasting” means going several days without even drinking water, that sounds like it is way unhealthier than a bit of weed or even alcohol…

Zymos · 2015-03-09T18:18:45.000Z

Sorry, maybe I misread the part where you mentioned something about it taking a week…

crypticresonance · 2015-03-09T18:24:14.000Z

I ate a bigger dose of shrooms some 10+ years ago. It certainly changed the way I view the world, nature, humanity in a permanent, and good way.
It’s not necessarily good for everyone. But I honestly think alcohol is simply put, much more dangerous than some of the illegal drugs.

kusalamati · 2015-03-09T19:31:19.000Z

""TrabanT"":

just in case any mod or admin would like to have this thread removed, it is okay with me ( the OP ! )

how has (not) doing drugs changed your life ?

I drink posh coffee and eat chia seeds.

I also buy quite a bit of expensive electronic music making equipment.

The sense of lack is a many headed beast.
But I’m on to it.

benwadub · 2015-03-09T19:39:49.000Z

if drug must be taste at a moment of the life it must be when all is good in your life!
but a life can be live without!
i think drugs i took years ago are best and worst remember of my life…
but life is better now that i only use coffee and tobacco!
and a small joint when i sometime go in a week end in amsterdam! they are better when only come each 2 years!

Noisebuddy · 2015-03-09T19:52:23.000Z

During my youth (beginn of 90s) i tripped the hell out of me…

I have two perspectives on this time

1.) I started to work after my regular job in a record-store and worke behind two decks 1210mkII … i drifted to new spaces … so no DJing… i lost this opportunity … and had quite a lot of troubles reintegrating me into society again… but i did it… very succsessfully

2.) I saw, heared & felt things that the majority of people will never ever experience… i would miss that… since this time i tried to recreate the effect i’ve experienced with strange sounds out of my synths, meditation, sports… sometimes with unexpected outcomes

But as allready quoted… as i got older the more i’d like to have a clear mind…

In fact … i don’t smoke anymore… no alcohol… actually a very brave guy

benwadub · 2015-03-09T20:28:25.000Z

""uNoisebuddy"":

During my youth (beginn of 90s) i tripped the hell out of me…

I have two perspectives on this time

1.) I started to work after my regular job in a record-store and worke behind two decks 1210mkII … i drifted to new spaces … so no DJing… i lost this opportunity … and had quite a lot of troubles reintegrating me into society again… but i did it… very succsessfully

2.) I saw, heared & felt things that the majority of people will never ever experience… i would miss that… since this time i tried to recreate the effect i’ve experienced with strange sounds out of my synths, meditation, sports… sometimes with unexpected outcomes

But as allready quoted… as i got older the more i’d like to have a clear mind…

In fact … i don’t smoke anymore… no alcohol… actually a very brave guy

your post remember me that music saved me from drugs! i bought my first machine the day i decides to stop this bad life! and music became my drug! delay phasersvand reverb make me feel like an acid trip!!

PongFu · 2015-03-09T20:36:40.000Z

I rather give my drugs to the decadentist.
Shrooms are just the parachutes of the fallen world.
Smoking is just a black tezcatlipoca invention of the old nihilist indian U.S.
meant to equalize the importance of gullet and windpipe
because of the secret holies and the holies walking upright.
Now where to send the naturine samples for the drug test lab challenge?

GovernorSilver · 2015-03-09T20:39:51.000Z

The only drugs I’ve ever taken have been alcohol and marijuana - and that’s just once, courtesy of a friend who make weed cookies for a birthday party.

Doesn’t seem to have made any difference in my creative life. More of a difference in social life (making friends while drinking).

monocon · 2015-03-09T20:42:41.000Z

I have quite a story to tell in this regard. I started drugs when i was very young and i was heavily addicted more than 10 years. It took me another 3 years to fight against my heroin addiction but i made it.
I am clean now since 3.5 years after a long therapy.
I have work, house and girlfriend and couldnt be more happy.
I have got to a point in my live where i can accept my past and i dotnt want to miss one thing of it because i dont want my present to be changed…

cheers

Noisebuddy · 2015-03-09T20:46:12.000Z

@benwadub

Actually music can influence the mind very well

for a trippy sound i use the temposynced delay with ping pong… medium feedback and short time, reverb as well

I think certain goa-styles catch this feeling

but also ‘roomy’ ambient

Noisebuddy · 2015-03-09T20:52:47.000Z

""Maxicosi"":

I have quite a story to tell …

respect…

Accent · 2015-03-09T21:12:37.000Z

You name it, I’ve tried it at least once (excluding PCP and crack cocaine). Was deep enough into it that I was doing another kind of synthesis before I got more interested in doing it sonically. Psychedelics were/are my thing, but it’s been a couple of years since I’ve done anything besides occasionally dip into the space dust in my freezer.

I regard my use as a generally positive thing. I went through a really bad breakup a few years ago, and while I’d always dabbled, I got more serious in my use as a tool for therapy, and it really helped me in those years to gain perspective and self realization. Eventually, I got the message and hung up the phone, but I’m not against another journey into hyperspace.

Noisebuddy · 2015-03-09T21:39:09.000Z

To be honest… i was too young at the time drawing any serious conclusions from my experiences… exept to be carefully with the dose

The only thing which catches my interest despite my absence is a contact with the so called ‘selftransforming machine-elves’

Zymos · 2015-03-09T21:46:10.000Z

^ worth trying, but pretty much irrelevant to anything else in the rest of your life- just too weird and fast to be very meaningful. Very different than the fungi, even though it’s almost the same chemical…

Accent · 2015-03-09T21:56:54.000Z

""Zymos"":

^ worth trying, but pretty much irrelevant to anything else in the rest of your life- just too weird and fast to be very meaningful. Very different than the fungi, even though it’s almost the same chemical…

Unlike fungi, it is very impersonal for the user…more like the universe is exposing itself to you and has no time to be concerned with your land ape issues. It’s something that I’ve found to be more meaningful through repeated experiences, as you can start to understand the landscape and appreciate the scenery.
Taking 100mg from the head of a nail was especially meaningful…I very much had a death/rebirth experience, but I wouldn’t recommend that type of dose for any but the most experienced psychonaut.

Noisebuddy · 2015-03-09T22:01:26.000Z

""Zymos"":

^ worth trying, but pretty much irrelevant to anything else in the rest of your life- just too weird and fast to be very meaningful. Very different than the fungi, even though it’s almost the same chemical…

well it’s an option - for a short-time vacation
but i know what you want to say

Noisebuddy · 2015-03-09T22:06:22.000Z

Even if i really going to do it… i will ask a friend to be my companion