Is it because I’m using some random USB cable from who knows when, or is it because Mac OS 13.4 isn’t compatible with the ZOOM’s legacy software?
FWIW, I can run the software, but it won’t recognize the pedal’s MIDI IN/OUT.
Anyone else run into this bug? Seems like a pretty popular pedal on here.
Thanks!
While it tells you nothing, my zoom recorder is really picky about USB cables.
Thanks, I’m hoping it’s the cable,
but I also don’t want to buy an(other) obsolete cable unless I know I really have to!
Fucking sucks that they used mini USB or whatever it is. I have like 5 of those cables and none of them work with the same devices either. The zoom will only accept one of them.
They all look the same to me. No discernable difference.
Correct: USB cables are different: some cables will fast charge your smartphone, others don’t. Some will give the full speed transfer to an ext ssd , other don’t.
no idea why
I connected the MS-50G to macOS Sequoia and it worked without any issues.
The editor at Zoom MS-50G / 60B / 70CDR Patch Editor also works via WebMIDI.
I suspect the main failure mode for USB 1.0 and 2.0 cables is internal breakage due to poor wire quality.
USB 3 is far more complex. Low quality cables can fail due to poor design (they would never work, or might only work in very limited circumstances) or poor parts/materials.
As far as SSD performance goes, USB-C is a framework of standards. You need to ensure that your computer, cable and SSD all have matching specs, otherwise the most limited component will bottleneck the system. Good SSD and Display cables are expensive but mandatory.
A basic usb charging cable has 2 wires and a ground, usb 1.0 and 2.0 data cables have 4 wires plus a ground, usb 3.0 has 9 wires and uses a different protocol that allows parallel data transfer and greater power delivery. USB C can have up to 24 wires and obviously allows even greater power delivery and data speeds.
I was specifically talking about these antiquated mini usb (connector type) cables that ZOOM chose to use on a lot of devices including my h1 recorder.
My complaint about the 5 cables that I own is that while they are all mini usb and also, I believe all of them to be data cables as well (based on the devices that included them over the years), regardless of maker, even if no wires for data are present then the power delivery should still be consistent throughout.
So even though all of these are probably power+data cables, only one of them will deliver data or power to the zoom recorder which is always a headache figuring out which one because I don’t keep every item that I own in a specific little tupperware with the cable or whatever.
I just don’t understand why out of 5 of these antiquated mini-usb cables which are mostly from the era before they started making crazy internal differentiations and where any USB data cable had a max of 4 wires plus the ground that only one of them will power or connect the zoom recorder to the computer.
My whole point was that zoom products seem very picky about which cable you use even amongst what seem to be other identical cables, not just visually identical but functionally identical.
I hope that clears up the specific cable paradox to which I was complaining about earlier.
A lot of usb technology involves the host and the peripheral communicating and making requests and approvals. If there are 24 available connections in the fully featured usb c cable and it only connects 4 pins, then the computer knows that it’s only (at most) capable of that usb 2.0 protocol so it will negotiate power and data delivery based on that. If 24 pins are connected, then I assume the computer (if it’s usb c capable in the first place) starts the negotiation for power and data delivery based on that confirmation which is partially physical because it needs the extra pins to function in such a way.
When dealing with a host, the device itself requests a specific amount of power which is approved and then delivered. With charger type power supplies I think that it probably contains some kind of chip that the device gets information from, but that a lot of the power limiting is done with physical components internally.
As far as fast charging some cables may not be able to deliver as much power for the same reason, but some chargers (the wall unit itself) are limited in the amount of power that they can deliver.
My samsung tablet knows when it’s not connected to a fast charge source and says it isn’t able to charge at full strength every time I connect it to a power supply that is not it’s own or a comparable one, even using it’s own usb c to usb type A cable, which with the native charger does support fast charging.
It’s all a bad joke intended to get us to keep buying more cables. This absurd cable conundrum. Technology can go to hell.
Speaking of Zoom MS-70CDR pedal: excellent effect and great versatility for the price. The moment I discovered that I could even connect it to the internet to use user effects database was enlightening! I also discovered that with custom firmware I could boost performance: from then on I started messing around with the OS of that poor pedal… until I bricked it, yes, I wiped his brain out. Now it turns on, but the screen is blank and it no longer has a connection to the computer. I must say that custom firmwares are coded by users and are not official releases: unfortunately tragedy can happen and, in the end, it happened: I managed to lobotomize the unit. Since that moment I have not been able to bring it back to life, I have tried everything without success.
All this to put you on alert: installing custom firmware is not a joke and there is a serious possibility of destroying the gear
No need to worry, the URL I shared is not related to any custom firmware. It is simply a patch editor that works through WebMIDI.
