Hi
New here and just got an Analog Rytm MK2 but I’m confused as to the difference between the two sets of inputs and I can’t seem to find anything to help in the manual
What are the uses and routing for each?
Many thanks
You can only sample from „Audio in“. The other one you can use to daisy chain your instruments and apply compression/distortion.
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Thanks very much - to clarify anything in “Audio In” ony goes to the sampler and doesn’t come out the master output is that correct?
I’m also curious.
‘Audio In’ with monitoring vs. ‘Ext. in’ - any difference in signal path or quality?
Audio in goes through the AD conversion to be able to be sampled. External in enters the analogue signal path (after the distortion but before the compressor) and stays analogue through to the outputs.
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Ahh. Thank you @finalform
So there should be an audible difference between the two?
But as I’m using the rytm as interface, and record everything to my DAW through it, it shouldn’t matter, as A/D is needed no matter what, in this scenario. Right?
Or am I doing unnecessary double A/D conversion? This just got more complicated.
So, I have a synth, that I use as ‘Ext In’ on the RYTM, both to use the compressor, and to simplify my audio routing in my simple setup.
But sometimes, I would like to sample from that synth, and it is a bit cumbersome to rearrange the cables to ‘Audio in’ for these occasions.
So, I’m thinking, what if I just keep the sampling setting set to ‘Audio L+R’ and have monitoring set to ‘ON’. I could then leave the synth connected to the Audio in, and sample it, whenever I like. But does it still go through the compressor?
Anything I’m missing? This way, I could also have one more device connected to ‘Ext In’?
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But, then, you’ll want to sample it.
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I’m not sure, I think the answer is to test it and see how you get on. The manual isn’t clear about where the audio input monitoring enters the signal chain.
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Makes sense. But still hoping someone knows the answer. I can’t be the only one not getting the signal flow and the a/d conversions on the audio in.
I’d test it myself but my back’s given out and I’m laid up in bed!
I’m pretty sure it gets A/Dd before you hear it. I think it must do to be able to be metered. Shouldn’t be too hard to figure out whether it gets affected by the compressor (I’m guessing not) and whether it comes through on the main outs via Overbridge.
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indeed - as you mentioned it’s easy to tell that you are auditioning it pre-compressor - the sampling would need to be complete and put onto a track to go through the compressor
it should also be obvious that when the (sampling) Audio Ins are used, they are summing to mono whilst monitoring as it will be mono when sampled in any case
by contrast you can’t centre pan anything going to the (analog) Ext Ins, they stay 100% L or R
One thing that folk may overlook is that the External Ins are passing through the symmetry bias offset of the distortion page when mixed in
also as you mentioned - the Audio Ins are monitored after A/D conversion as the are for anything you hear fron the OT (there is no Direct )
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Also got this great info on the Facebook group. Good points for anyone interested in this subject:
- the sampling input does not go through the compressor
- the sampling inputs are summed to mono if you’re using a stereo source
- you can still sample the Ext In using “Main” as your source in the sampler
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What do you mean. Can you explain this in another way? @avantronica
Symmetry is some kind of bias which distorts the signal by offsetting it from its position vertically. It’s after the distortion but part of that page. When the Ext ins are discussed as being after distortion but before compressor it is mostly accurate, the ins are mixed in at this bias. So symmetry will ‘distort’ the external ins although the main distortion circuit isn’t involved.
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